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  • From: Alexander Kiselev <kisselev AT mail.desy.de>
  • To: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: "phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Pinkenburg, Christopher" <pinkenbu AT bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] Draft program development slides
  • Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 22:52:29 +0200 (CEST)

Torre,

I like the direction...

great! Then why don't we follow it? :-)

EIC software: Needs some dedicated effort now to leverage BNL software
strengths, the effort level rising over time as sPHENIX directed effort
transitions to EIC; EIC software is a strategic
investment feeding directly into BNL leadership in detector development and
EIC science 

this edition still sounds like there is no EIC software around other than what can be grown out of sPHENIX one. Let me put it straight: in year
one will "EIC postdoc" be encouraged to do *anything* EIC-related, which is not at the same time sPHENIX-bound? Like helping adapt EicRoot to the community reconstruction environment?

Thank you,
Alexander.




  Torre

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:26 PM Alexander Kiselev <kisselev AT mail.desy.de>
wrote:
   Hi Torre,

> Hi Alexander,What I meant on slide 2 is that in terms of software
funding and FTEs, EIC is in a real way a natural (and strategic :-) follow-on to
sPHENIX. That's what the management
has said: the
> effort that we build up now, targeted primarily to sPHENIX, we can
sustain beyond sPHENIX by directing it at EIC. I didn't mean piggy backing on
sPHENIX software. Not sure how to
reword it because
> as I read it, it says what I mean! Suggestions welcome

   admittedly for me this bullet reads like there is no EIC software
worth mentioning other than what follows from the sPHENIX effort.

   At the same time, I agree in general with everything written about
sPHENIX & EIC interplay on slides 3-6.

   How about

   "A strategic follow-on to the ongoing EIC software development and
sPHENIX effort, directly ..." ?

   Regards,
     Alexander.



>   Torre
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 3:41 PM Alexander Kiselev
<kisselev AT mail.desy.de> wrote:
>          Hello colleagues,
>
>       > maybe it is worth pointing out that BNL is the only place
where full GEANT4 based EIC detector simulations exist and therefore can provide
the EIC community with the tools they
have
>       been asking for
>
>          I think at present only sPHENIX software qualifies to be
called a
>       complete GEANT4 simulation, suitable for EIC. EicRoot is a very
>       vertasile EIC-oriented tracker development tool, and it has
eRHIC-related
>       IR description machinery, which is used to populate pCDR (and
later on
>       CDR) documents. The rest, to be honest, is more or less
obsolete and/or
>       not really supported.
>
>          Yet I think 'EIC Software' bullet on slide 2 should be
somewhat
>       "diversified". EIC software effort is clearly not limited to
piggy
>       back and/or follow on sPHENIX. This is obviously true for the
current
>       state. May also well be so for the future (in the unfortunate
case
>       JLAB wins the site selection or the Day One EIC collaboration
decides
>       to write its software from scratch or Jana-based framework
developed
>       by the EIC community grows into a great success, etc).
>
>          Cheers,
>            Alexander.
>
>
>
>       > for the last few years and we should capitalize on this many
years of investment. For Fun4All this goes up to forward jet reconstruction which
in the plan proposed by JLab
would be up
>       to the users
>       > to figure out and implement.
>       >
>       > Chris
>       >
>       > On 7/8/2019 3:02 PM, Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l wrote:
>       >       Here are draft program development slides for my 15min
slot on Wed, comments appreciated   Torre
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