NPPS Leadership Team

[Alexander Kiselev <kisselev AT mail.desy.de>]

  Torre,

> I like the direction...

  great! Then why don't we follow it? :-)

> EIC software: Needs some dedicated effort now to leverage BNL software 
> strengths, the effort level rising over time as sPHENIX directed effort 
> transitions to EIC; EIC software is a strategic
> investment feeding directly into BNL leadership in detector development and 
> EIC science 

  this edition still sounds like there is no EIC software around other 
than what can be grown out of sPHENIX one. Let me put it straight: in year
one will "EIC postdoc" be encouraged to do *anything* EIC-related, which 
is not at the same time sPHENIX-bound? Like helping adapt EicRoot to the 
community reconstruction environment?

  Thank you,
    Alexander.



>   Torre
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:26 PM Alexander Kiselev <kisselev AT mail.desy.de> 
> wrote:
>          Hi Torre,
>
>       > Hi Alexander,What I meant on slide 2 is that in terms of software 
> funding and FTEs, EIC is in a real way a natural (and strategic :-) follow-on to 
> sPHENIX. That's what the management
>       has said: the
>       > effort that we build up now, targeted primarily to sPHENIX, we can 
> sustain beyond sPHENIX by directing it at EIC. I didn't mean piggy backing on 
> sPHENIX software. Not sure how to
>       reword it because
>       > as I read it, it says what I mean! Suggestions welcome
>
>          admittedly for me this bullet reads like there is no EIC software
>       worth mentioning other than what follows from the sPHENIX effort.
>
>          At the same time, I agree in general with everything written about
>       sPHENIX & EIC interplay on slides 3-6.
>
>          How about
>
>          "A strategic follow-on to the ongoing EIC software development and
>       sPHENIX effort, directly ..." ?
>
>          Regards,
>            Alexander.
>
>
>
>       >   Torre
>       >
>       > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 3:41 PM Alexander Kiselev 
> <kisselev AT mail.desy.de> wrote:
>       >          Hello colleagues,
>       >
>       >       > maybe it is worth pointing out that BNL is the only place 
> where full GEANT4 based EIC detector simulations exist and therefore can provide 
> the EIC community with the tools they
>       have
>       >       been asking for
>       >
>       >          I think at present only sPHENIX software qualifies to be 
> called a
>       >       complete GEANT4 simulation, suitable for EIC. EicRoot is a very
>       >       vertasile EIC-oriented tracker development tool, and it has 
> eRHIC-related
>       >       IR description machinery, which is used to populate pCDR (and 
> later on
>       >       CDR) documents. The rest, to be honest, is more or less 
> obsolete and/or
>       >       not really supported.
>       >
>       >          Yet I think 'EIC Software' bullet on slide 2 should be 
> somewhat
>       >       "diversified". EIC software effort is clearly not limited to 
> piggy
>       >       back and/or follow on sPHENIX. This is obviously true for the 
> current
>       >       state. May also well be so for the future (in the unfortunate 
> case
>       >       JLAB wins the site selection or the Day One EIC collaboration 
> decides
>       >       to write its software from scratch or Jana-based framework 
> developed
>       >       by the EIC community grows into a great success, etc).
>       >
>       >          Cheers,
>       >            Alexander.
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >       > for the last few years and we should capitalize on this many 
> years of investment. For Fun4All this goes up to forward jet reconstruction which 
> in the plan proposed by JLab
>       would be up
>       >       to the users
>       >       > to figure out and implement.
>       >       >
>       >       > Chris
>       >       >
>       >       > On 7/8/2019 3:02 PM, Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l wrote:
>       >       >       Here are draft program development slides for my 15min 
> slot on Wed, comments appreciated   Torre
>       >       >
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