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  • From: "Benjamin, Douglas" <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Frantz, Justin" <frantz AT ohio.edu>, Ross Corliss <rcorliss AT mit.edu>
  • Cc: sphenix calibrations <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-calibration-l] Input for Collaboration Meeting
  • Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:31:12 +0000

Hi Justin,

Thank you for the update. The Tuesday after the collaboration meeting is
fine. Thanks for all of your work.

Regards,
Doug Benjamin

-----Original Message-----
From: "Frantz, Justin" <frantz AT ohio.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 11:19 PM
To: Ross Corliss <rcorliss AT mit.edu>, "Benjamin, Douglas" <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>
Cc: sphenix calibrations <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: [Sphenix-calibration-l] Input for Collaboration Meeting

Hi all,

First Doug I presume you'll want the similar things for the calo side, I
wasn't sure if you heard me at the end of the computing meeting today I was
planning on updating the calo workflow chart with more of the numbers based
on our last week discussion and getting some more of what we didn't have last
time, and I could include more about these aggregation and small file
generation steps, but I was thinking to do this on the time scale of next
time we meet (for another Calo Calib-SDCC mtg during Tuesday computing mtg
time) which will be just after the collab mtg, if you are OK with that
timescale.

Second to all about the collab mtg (and sorry for the delayed response):
Christof and I were discussing just after the computing mtg today, I think it
would be good to have a couple short talks on the calo side during our
scheduled time from the two current efforts for the Emcal and Hcal on Cosmics
and LED testing, since a lot has been happening and there are some new young
people working on this which it'd be nice to highlight. We were thinking
maybe we still shoot for fairly short talks each, maybe if we shoot for 5
minutes each if that is remotely possible or 10 minutes max (I think I could
probably keep my summary to 5 personally, I would also probably show our flow
chart,e .g. but I don't think there's been much else new since the S&C
review) we could get in 5 or 6 short talks and still even leave a tiny time
for discussion in keeping with the theme of the other sessions. Discussion
aside, if we shoot to make them all really short then we at least may keep
just the talks within the hour timeframe...

-Justin


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sPHENIX-calibration-l [mailto:sphenix-calibration-l-
> bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Ross Corliss via
sPHENIX-calibration-l
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 3:58 PM
> To: Benjamin, Douglas <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>
> Cc: sphenix calibrations <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Sphenix-calibration-l] Input for Collaboration Meeting
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> I'll keep working to get all the details in there as we realize we've
left them
> out. If there are pieces still missing from what I show tomorrow, let
me
> know.
>
> -Ross
> > On Jun 7, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Benjamin, Douglas <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Would it be possible for the 'rev 3' of the flow chart include the
merge
> steps also listed. If all of the steps are listed in the flow chart
then it more
> straight forward to understand the intermediate data products, their
sizes,
> how often they are aggregated. I would like to start to assemble the
> processing DAG (at least on paper). The flow chart will be the input to
the
> DAG, there will be some steps that will need to be run in parallel to
produce
> enough output for the aggregation steps. I know I might be stating the
> obvious but I would like to write it down. If there are a lot of small
files
> produced by many processes across many nodes, then we need a storage
> device that can handle the load. Such things are not cheap.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Doug Benjamin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sPHENIX-calibration-l
<sphenix-calibration-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>
> on behalf of Ross Corliss via sPHENIX-calibration-l
<sphenix-calibration-
> l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > Reply-To: Ross Corliss <rcorliss AT mit.edu>
> > Date: Monday, June 7, 2021 at 2:14 PM
> > To: Hugo Pereira Da Costa <hugo.pereira-da-costa AT cea.fr>
> > Cc: sphenix calibrations <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > Subject: Re: [Sphenix-calibration-l] Input for Collaboration Meeting
> >
> > HI Hugo et al.,
> >
> > I think the details of how the distortions are derived and combined
> (hence the flow chart -- probably a
> > 'rev 3', with the 'validate' step fleshed out) would be good to
show, along
> with the status of the components. This matches a lot of Hugo's
comments.
> > Some of the details of the central membrane distortion monitoring
(which
> we will discuss tomorrow, and hopefully have a pull request before the
collab
> meeting) have also progressed since last time.
> >
> > I would be glad to assemble the slides and present the status.
> >
> > -Ross
> >> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa via sPHENIX-
> calibration-l <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Christof, (repeating here what we discussed semi-privately)
> >>
> >> On the track-based space charge distortion reconstruction, there
really
> have not been much new things since last collaboration meeting, mainly
> because things where in a reasonable state by then already.
> >>
> >> Obviously, there have been developments on making the TPOT
> happening for real (something which is critical to track-based SC
corrections),
> but I expect this to be covered in a separate talk in the detector
section
> >>
> >> To me, the newest thing that should really be presented at the
> collaboration meeting is the effort, led by Ross, to put all the bits
and pieces
> we have on the TPC SC distortion correction in a comprehensive flow
chart,
> organized in a first-pass and second-pass reconstruction.
> >>
> >> We should then emphasize which parts of this flowchart are already
there
> (committed, ready to use), which are 'almost there', and which still
need
> some significant work. I'll let Ross comment on this (and hopefully
volunteer
> to present this).
> >>
> >> On that topic, one of the missing parts of the flow-chart, namely the
> ability for the first-pass reconstruction to store the per-job
space-charge
> correction matrices in independent, tiny files, together with a separate
> process to aggregate, invert these matrices and produce a full map, has
been
> pushed to our repositories last week. So we are one step closer to
having this
> flow chart turned into a real thing.
> >>
> >> That is all the input I have.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Hugo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/4/2021 8:58 AM, Christof Roland via sPHENIX-calibration-l wrote:
> >>> Thanks to Klaus for pointing this out, obviously the mail should
> >>> have started with "DeaR Calibration TaskFocre Members"
> >>>
> >>> I sincerely apologize!
> >>>
> >>> This will go onto my list of the more memorable typos or autocorrect
> failures.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Christof
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 4. Jun 2021, at 16:40, Christof Roland via sPHENIX-calibration-l
> <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dead Calibration TaskForce Members,
> >>>>
> >>>> we are supposed to provide feedback to Dave & Gunther so they
> >>>> can set up the program for the upcoming collaboration meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you please provide us with a few line response on the
> >>>> topics you would want to highlight at the collaboration meeting?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please also let us know if you would prefer the usual layout
> >>>> if a separate report by each subcommittee or if we should
> >>>> change for this particular meeting to a shorter executive style
> >>>> report to keep the meeting time short and leaving more time for
> >>>> discussion, as Gunther and Dave suggested last General Meeting
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> Takao & Christof
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