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  • From: Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Makdisi, Yousef I" <makdisi AT bnl.gov>, "Anerella, Michael D" <mda AT bnl.gov>, "O'Brien, Edward" <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
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  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] It's Radiation Area mostly ... I need to make sure that we meet all the regulations ...
  • Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:17:20 -0500

Hi,

>
Another possibility is escorting as Kin proposed or to delineate the area for the time being as controlled area. But let us wait till Dave is back.

By the way, unless the plan is changed, I'll be escorting Henry Hocker, Peter Wanderer, Mike Anerella, Paul Kovach and Piyush Joshi to that area tomorrow (Thur.)
to take a look at the magnet.  I can do so even if it's Radiation Area.    ( It's almost impossible if I need to escort into the High Radiation Area like inside the AGS ring. ) 
But of course, I can't do the "escorting" whenever somebody needs to go to do work in Bldg. 912.

Kin

On 02/04/2015 05:54 PM, Makdisi, Yousef I wrote:
To all,
 
   While Kin is correct. The area postings in 912 seem to change depending
on the type work being done. I will defer to D. Phillips as the current
magnet location is temporary and likely to change when work on MPS magnet
removal is done. 
   Another possibility is escorting as Kin proposed or to delineate the
area for the time being as controlled area. But let us wait till Dave is
back.

Regards,
   Yousef

On 2/4/15 5:41 PM, "Anerella, Michael D" <mda AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Was it ever mentioned in the meetings that the magnet was being placed in
a radiation area?  Is this where it will remain for the FY15 cold testing?
Thanks
Mike


On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:29 PM, EdwardOBrien <eobrien AT bnl.gov> wrote:

   Hi Kin,
    Is a simple solution for all of us to take Rad Worker 1?
   I had it for years when I worked on the AGS floor
   but since we moved to RHIC, CAD User Training was all that
   is required. It wouldn't be so difficult to take RW-1 again.
   Thanks.


   Ed

On 2/4/2015 4:10 PM, Kin Yip wrote:
Hi,

This afternoon, I feel that my job has finally got started.  I've been
talking with a few people including our ESSHQ Asso. Director Ed.
Lessard
and Division Head R. Karol, the HP Group Leader Paul Bergh, and Al
Pendzick et. al.

I just walked with Paul Bergh to the area where the Babar magnet sits
in
Bldg. 912.  As of now, the area that the magnet
sits is in the Radiation Area and most area of that huge building
isRadiation Area.   For that, you need theRad. Worker 1
and C-A Access Training.   There is an area near the ERL is now
"Controlled Area with TLD requirement" (let me call it "CAWT").
This morning, when the magnet arrived, the HP actually deposted the
area
from "Radiation Area" to "CAWT".

You also need to sign a RWP (work planning) before you go to do work in
the Radiation Area.

Somebody is talking about the possibility of making the area where the
Babar magnet is a "CAWT" area.  But it's
probably complicated and difficult.  Because you may step into the
Radiation Area without knowing ... and the ERL may be running
soon and there is a small chance that the "CAWT" may become "Radiation
Area".   (  Even for a CAWT, you may still need the "C-AD User
Training"  and GERT to get the TLD. )

I wonder how many of you don't have the Radiation Worker 1 training.
We
can arrange C-A Access Training (the C-AD User training
for STAR/PHENIX physicists are not really that suitable) specially for
this task.

To just to take a look, I can escort you --- I've done before ... but
you can't work but just "observe".


Ed Lessard gave me a 5-10 minute lecture which has made me feel very
important.  He's worried that there are 3 groups of people (C-AD,
Physics and Superconducting Magnet Div.) working in the Radiation area
(or any area).   So, it's my job to (try to) make sure that
we don't have any "incident"/"accident" ...

So, we (... a lot of involvement D. Phillips here) may certainly need
to
do some work planning with our Work Control Manager Peter Cirnigliaro.
And we also need to pass Y. Makdisi's Expt. Safety Review Comittee ...

In this aspect, I'm like the so-called  Liaison Physicist (if not a
safety officer) ...

The bottom line is that there will be rules / regulations in C-AD that
you need to observe and deal with before you can come to work in Bldg.
912.
They may not be difficult but we can't ignore them :-)

If there is anything unclear, please come to talk to me and I'll try to
sort this out.

Kin



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