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  • From: pdixit <pdixit AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Prabhupada Dixit for DAE HEP 2020 submitted for review
  • Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:43:01 +0530

On 2020-12-09 06:21, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Dear Prabhupada
Do you have a better plot of v2(Minv), where you do see a visible difference
in v2 between signal and combinatorial? A peak or dip in some other pT or
centrality selections? I do not mean this method is bad, but it’s just more
convincing, if one sees a dip or a peak around the phi mass region...
Best regards, ShinIchi

2020/12/09 9:44、ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>のメール:

Dear Prabhupada
I’ve been seeing a reasonable agreement between you and the one from Shaowei
in the E-mail discussions. If the previous preliminary shown in the last QM is consistent
with your analysis within the statistical and systematic errors, we do not have to
update/modify the previous results, what you are showing now in this slide is then
the one from the previous preliminary? or new results? You mentioned in the reply to
Jiangyong’s E-mail, you seem to exclude systematic errors in one of the companion
plots, however the comparison to the models or other data should always include the
both statistical and systematic errors. There are some exceptions where you can
exclude one of them, when you are comparing the exact same data sets or in case
some systematics would cancel etc...
Best regards, ShinIchi

2020/12/09 3:07、pdixit via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>のメール:

On 2020-12-08 21:41, Jiangyong Jia via Star-fcv-l wrote:
HI, Prabhupada
Just a few comments on your nice talk.
1 Please add slide number
2 slide 9 show the results from EPD and TPC are consistent within 10%.
Are you quoting that as the systematic uncertainties?
3 You do not indicate which method you use for v2 measurement.
4 slide 10 and 12 should include systetematic uncertatinties for v2
measurements and for the EP resolution (even if they are small they
should be included)
Jiangyong
On 12/8/20 12:06 AM, pdixit via Star-fcv-l wrote:
On 2020-12-03 23:13, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
Prabhupada Dixit (prabhupadad AT iiserbpr.ac.in) has submitted a
material for a
review, please have a look:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/52968
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Hi all,
This is a gentle reminder to review my presentation. The conference is
on 14th December so I would like to request all to give your comments
and suggestion early.
Thanks and regards
Prabhupada Dixit
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Hi Jiangyong,
Thank you so much for your comments and suggestions.
1. I have added the slide number.

2.slide 9 show the results from EPD and TPC are consistent within 10%. Are you quoting that as the systematic uncertainties?
- No, we are not quoting that as systematic uncertainty. Those two results are from different run and the event plane used there are also from different detectors. We have just compared both the results in this slide.

3.You do not indicate which method you use for v2 measurement.
- We have used invariant mass method here. I have updated the slide with this information.

4. slide 10 and 12 should include systematic uncertainties for v2 measurements and for the EP resolution (even if they are small they should be included)
- The v2 for 54GeV is already STAR Preliminary in QM-19 (by Shaowei Lan) which does not have systematic uncertainty. As suggested by Prithwish and ShinIchi in FCV-PWG group meeting we are showing that result.
In slide-12 we have also removed systematic error bar from 27GeV since we are showing v2 for both the energies side by side this will look odd if one has extra systematic error bar and one has not.

link to updated slide: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/DAE_HEP_Talk_version_1.pdf
Please suggest if any other changes required.

Thanks and regards
Prabhupada Dixit.

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Hi ShinIchi,
Thanks for your comments.
1. I have updated the v2(Minv) plot with a better one.
2. You have asked whether we are showing the previous preliminary result or new. The answer is YES, we are showing the previous preliminary result for v2 at 54GeV. The only new one is v2 at 27GeV using EPD event plane.
3. As you suggested we have put the systematic error bar in the model comparison plot.

the link the modified slide is
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/DAE_HEP_Talk_version_2.pdf

Thanks and regards
Prabhupada Dixit





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