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  • From: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: Gavin Wilks <gwilks3 AT uic.edu>
  • Cc: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Gavin Wilks for SQM 2022 submitted for review
  • Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 16:31:39 +0800

Dear Gavin,

One quick comment: You can add the Figure-2 from the arXiv, which would make better impression on the expectation from the model. But I would leave it to you.

Thanks and regards,
Subhash

On 2022-06-08 01:01 PM, Gavin Wilks wrote:
Dear Subhash,

I have addressed the comments and have re-uploaded to drupal. Here are
the details of my updates:

slide#5: You can mention: For the first time, a large positive
global spin alignment ... at mid-central collisions

slide#8: Seems redundant. You can combine 8&9 and indicate the
expected improvement for BES-II.
I have made these changes.

slide#13: You can refer to this recent arXiv posting on the expected
pT dependence from this phi field model:

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[1] (Figure 2)

Now slide #12: I referenced this arXiv figure at the bottom of the
text box.

slide#14: Can you indicate the model fit is through BES-I data, may
be you can also change the color of the fitted line same as BES-I to
reflect that.
Now slide #13: I changed the color of the line to black to match the
points and the legend now specifies “(Fit to BES-I only)”.

slide#15: You mentioned that it is supported by vector meson strong
force field, which is fine. But in view of recent comments that we
received from the Nature referee, it would be good if you could also
indicate that more inputs from theory calculations are needed or
something along that line. So that it sounds STAR doesn't imply that
it is the only possible explanation.

Now slide #14: I added “More inputs needed from theory”.

Thank you and Regards,
Gavin

On Jun 8, 2022, at 00:07, subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Gavin,

Thanks for addressing my comments. I have a few additional
suggestions:

slide#8: Seems redundant. You can combine 8&9 and indicate the
expected improvement for BES-II.

slide#13: You can refer to this recent arXiv posting on the expected
pT dependence from this phi field model:

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[1] (Figure 2)

slide#14: Can you indicate the model fit is through BES-I data, may
be you can also change the color of the fitted line same as BES-I to
reflect that.

slide#15: You mentioned that it is supported by vector meson strong
force field, which is fine. But in view of recent comments that we
received from the Nature referee, it would be good if you could also
indicate that more inputs from theory calculations are needed or
something along that line. So that it sounds STAR doesn't imply that
it is the only possible explanation.

I am fine with your presentation once you addressed the above
comments.

Thanks and regards,
Subhash

On 2022-06-08 12:03 AM, Gavin Wilks wrote:
Dear Subhash,
Thank you for the comments on my sQM slides. I have addressed these
comments and uploaded the new copy to drupal.
slide#14: Does the model fit include BES-II data?
No, the model fit is just to the BES-I data.
Also, I have updated the values for the event counts from BES-II
using
the most updated version of the BUR for runs 23-25.
Thank you and Regards,
Gavin
On Jun 7, 2022, at 05:53, subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Gavin,
Nice slides. I have a few suggestions for your consideration.
Title: you can probably mention either RHIC BES-II or STAR BES-II
slide#5: seen --> observed
"conventional physical mechanisms" --> conventional physics
mechanisms or, conventional
polarization mechanisms.
"phi meson vector strong force field." --> phi meson strong force
field or vector meson strong force field.
slide#7: "Polarization in late stage of hadronic interactions" -->
Different late stage of hadronic interactions. Because I think
hadronic re-scattering can destroy the polarization signal.
"Correlations between d and s-bar fluctuating vector meson fields
.... " --> fluctuating vector meson fields for d and s-bar are
expected to be weaker than s and s-bar
slide#8: Remove validate BES-I. We should stress what are the
improvements at BES-II than BES-I, e.g. increased statistics, better
event plane resolution etc. Also later in your slides mention as a
future outlook that we can increase kinematic coverage in BES-II.
slide#9: Double check the number of events from our recent BUR.
"Improvements to STAR" --> can you be specific here, increased
acceptance, statistics etc.
slide#11: Mention Run-2019 inside Figure.
slide#12: "Correct yields using efficiency calculated from STAR
detector and Pythia6 simulations." --> Correct yields using
efficiency calculated from STAR detector simulations. We probably
don't need Pythia6, since it is techical part of analysis.
Check the prime symbols after "A" and "B" in the first bullet of
right box.
"is set by simulation" --> is determined by simulation
slide#13: Space between 19.6 & GeV. Inside figure mention data
taking year, rapidity acceptance.
slide#14: Does the model fit include BES-II data?
slide#15: "Consistent with BES-I results." --> Stress on the
improvement than consistent.
slide#17: You can remove this since you don't have any backups here.
Thanks and regards,
Subhash
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