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  • From: Zhenyu Ye <yezhenyu2003 AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Capotosto, Michael" <capotosto AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: "star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] T-Board V2.1 Assembly (Cable Pinout/Schematic Questions)
  • Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:13:21 -0500



> On Oct 17, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Capotosto, Michael <capotosto AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Gerard,
>
> That is correct. I believe we just need to re-number a few pairs of the
> test stand cable. For the four test boards we made with the old connectors
> in March/April, I believe the pairs in question would need to be
> re-soldered or re-pinned in the correct position.

Mike, in your file
FST_Inner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_5MAr19_EDIT_10-17-2019.pdf
do I understand correctly that you think the "Via Ref Des” given in

1. Column G are wrong for T2.0 ?
2. Column I are correct for T2.0 ?
3. Column J are correct for T2.1 ?

and who wrote these columns
1, by Steve in a file FST_Inner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_5MAr19.pdf (I am
guessing by the pdf file name)?
2/3. by You ?

Yes, I received four cables with T-board 2.0 (labelled “2019-03-04") in May.
The corresponding files from Steve were uploaded on April 29 onto
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/yezhenyu/forward-silicon-tracker-cables

One of the files
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/FST_Inner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_26APR19.xlsx
lists the Via Ref Des, which are the same as Column I in your file

Do you have a similar picture as that in the Tab “T-board pinout labelling”
of the file
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/FST_Inner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_26APR19.xlsx
but for T-board 2.1 (“2019-07-12”)?

Looking at the labeling of the vias on the “2019-03-04” and “2019-07-12”
T-boards, it seems that the positions of the vias for OUT_0-3 are reversed,
i.e. OUT_0 -> OUT_3, OUT_1 -> OUT_2, OUT_2 -> OUT_1, OUT_3 -> OUT_0.

Zhenyu


>
> --Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Star-fst-l <star-fst-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> On Behalf Of Gerard
> Visser
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:48 AM
> To: star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] T-Board V2.1 Assembly (Cable Pinout/Schematic
> Questions)
>
> hi guys,
> I can join such a meeting tomorrow, yes. Mike I didn't look at all
> your attachments yet, but the executive summary is nothing wrong that
> cannot be resolved by the mapping of soldering the cable wires to the
> board, is that correct? I hope... ??
>
> Gerard
>
> On 10/17/2019 11:45 AM, flemming videbaek wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Would it be possible to have a meeting (remote) on this tomorrow
>> Friday pref in the morning.
>> - I would like to understand
>> a) what went wrong here (my interpretaation of mike e-mail)
>> b) what is the corret design
>> c) who/when will it be done
>> c) signoff before we proceed as its clearly not ready for production.
>>
>> best Flemming
>>
>> PS currently on way back fom DNP
>>
>>
>>
>> Flemming Videbaek
>> senior scientist
>> videbaek @ bnl.gov <http://bnl.gov>
>> Brookhaven National Lab
>> Physics Department
>> Bldg 510D
>> Upton, NY 11973
>>
>> phone: 631-344-4106
>> cell : 631-681-1596
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2019, at 11:37, Capotosto, Michael <capotosto AT bnl.gov
>>> <mailto:capotosto AT bnl.gov>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Zhenyu and All,
>>> Not sure who to address this to - I've asked the vendor to hold off
>>> on putting the test stand cables on the T-board, as I've noticed some
>>> discrepancies.
>>> The attached Excel spreadsheet from Steve Valentino was used when
>>> ordering the test stand cables. Each wire/pair is labeled using the
>>> "Via Ref Des" column, in column "G", which corresponds to the D-Sub
>>> connector pin listed in column A.
>>> When compared to the schematic for T-Board*_V2.0_*the Via Ref Des is
>>> incorrect
>>> - the correct values according to the schematic are listed in Column
>>> I. This affected only OUT0 through OUT3. They are in reverse order,
>>> and some also have polarity reversed. This affects the first V2.0 test
>>> T-Boards we assembled.
>>> Zhenyu, I believe these were sent to you, if so just be aware.
>>> When compared to the T-Board*_V2.1_*the Via Ref Des is incorrect -
>>> the correct values according to the schematic are listed in Column J.
>>> This affected only
>>> OUT0 through OUT2. OUT3 is correctly labeled. OUT0 through OUT2 all
>>> have polarity reversed.
>>> I do not know the reason for the Via Ref Des changes between
>>> schematic/pcb revisions, or why the spreadsheet appears incorrect
>>> for*both**V2.0**and**V2.1*.
>>> I would appreciate it if someone could tell me if my assumption
>>> regarding the correct labeling for the cable should be what I’ve
>>> listed in Column J, and if not let me know what it should be.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Mike Capotosto
>>> <FST_Inner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_5MAr19_EDIT_10-17-2019.pdf><FST_I
>>> nner_cable_Test_Stand_Version_5MAr19_EDIT_10-17-2019.xlsx><T-Board_v2
>>> _1.pdf><T-Board_v2_sch.pdf>__________________________________________
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