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["Visser, Gerard" <gvisser AT indiana.edu>]

Probably, a straight one will work better than a bent one?

If 70 mil tip diameter is right, I think 5625A14 may be excellent, using the 15 deg tips. Of course guesswork involved here.

    Gerard

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From: Zhenyu Ye <yezhenyu2003 AT gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 9:39 AM
To: Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu>
Cc: Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] Found a new way to seperate t-board connectors

 

Hi Gerard,

Yes, this is the path we are on. I first found out the tool was not available and the brand was purchased by another company. Mike suggested McMaster 57805A44, which I bought and tried. It is indeed convenient to unplug the connectors. So it will be useful for module installation. But one problem for using it during the module production is that the module is placed in the storage box, and the tool is too long to fit in, as shown in Shenghui’s photo. I have ordered 5449A52, which is shorter by 2 inches. Will see how it works on Monday.

Zhenyu

> On Apr 9, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu> wrote:
>
> hello all, especially Mike,
>   It seems the tool you used, Mike, is no longer available. (Of course maybe can be found used someplace.)
>   There are many snap ring pliers available though, of course, e.g. https://www.mcmaster.com/snap-ring-pliers . Mike could you try to identify from dimensions something that should be equivalent, so others can buy and try? Indeed from Shengui's picture the head-on, not angled style will be better.
>    I have at home some that have adjustable (screw clamps to hold the tips at various spacing as needed, the tips have a bent shank and you just rotate them around till the gap is right and then tighten the screws). Something of that style might work well, if the tip diameter and length is right. I think it is like one of these https://www.mcmaster.com/snap-ring-pliers/changeable-tip-retaining-ring-pliers-sets-10/ .
>
>   Anyway, I leave this to others to pursue but I still would encourage that this is done. Sincerely,
>
>        Gerard
>
>
>
> From: Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov>
> Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 8:38 AM
> To: Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu>
> Cc: Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov>; Zhang, Shenghui <shenghui AT uic.edu>; apotosto AT bnl.gov <apotosto AT bnl.gov>; Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] Found a new way to seperate t-board connectors
> 
> maybe a utterly stupid question but are the sides of the box glued or screwed?
> If they are screwed just remove the one head side and it will work. And indeed it is important it is the same tool Mike bought.
>
> Cheers elke
>
>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 08:21, Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>> hi Shengui,
>>    That doesn't look like the same tool. ??
>>    But, would it anyway have fit if you came at it from the other side (i.e. on the right in this picture?).
>>    I would repeat my concern that unplugging of the hybrids from T board without some way to apply the force directly to the connector body, is a very high risk. If we can avoid ever​ doing that to a production hybrid that would be much better. I think it is certainly worth a few days delay to resolve this. (My opinion anyway.)
>>    Sincerely,
>>
>>        Gerard
>>
>>
>> From: Zhang, Shenghui <shenghui AT uic.edu>
>> Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 4:37 AM
>> To: Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu>; apotosto AT bnl.gov <apotosto AT bnl.gov>
>> Cc: Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>> Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] Found a new way to seperate t-board connectors
>> 
>> Hi Mike and all,
>>
>> I tried to use the new way to do unplugging of production hybrids and found the tool couldn't fit in the storage box shown at the attachment. So, I think that we couldn't use the new way during the module assembly.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shenghui
>> From: Star-fst-l <star-fst-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:04 AM
>> To: Visser Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu>
>> Cc: Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Sun, Xu <xusun87 AT uic.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] Found a new way to seperate t-board connectors
>> 
>> Dear Mike, All,
>>
>> indeed awesome find, I agree with Gerard, let's buy them for all places we do any  plugging/unplugging of production hybrids.
>>
>> Cheers elke
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:59, Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike - wow - awesome!
>>> This is an extremely good find, for reducing what I think is one of the highest risk areas in FST.
>>> I would strongly suggest that those doing any​ plugging/unplugging of production hybrids anywhere, stop work until they procure this exact tool. It will be worth any delay that incurs. Of course, not my decision, only recommending here.
>>> I am attaching here your two photographs so others on list can see.
>>> Thanks, sincerely,
>>>
>>>      Gerard
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Ye, Zhenyu <yezhenyu AT uic.edu>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:51 AM
>>> To: Capotosto, Michael <capotosto AT bnl.gov>
>>> Cc: Visser, Gerard <gvisser AT indiana.edu>; Sun, Xu <xusun87 AT uic.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: Found a new way to seperate t-board connectors
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Very nice!
>>>
>>> Zhenyu
>>>
>>> > On Apr 7, 2021, at 9:42 AM, Capotosto, Michael <capotosto AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hey guys,
>>> > 
>>> > Hope all is well.
>>> > 
>>> > Had a thought pop into my head while I was staring at the half ring assembly, thought I’d share…
>>> > 
>>> > These snap ring pliers fit perfectly into the 2mm holes in the hybrid side Nicomatic connectors. They provide enough grip to easily un-mate the connectors, inserting the pliers as shown. The same goes for the outer. It has enough friction to gently wiggle the connector free.
>>> > 
>>> > --Mike
>>> > <Removing module ffrom t-board.jpg><Snap ring pliers.jpg>
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