STAR HardProbes PWG

[suyuann AT mail.ustc.edu.cn]

Dear Nihar and Yi,

Thank you for your nice comments. I've implemented all of them. *the Npar or centrality scaling, we will focus on the pT spectra and collectivity, and with a weak conclusion with current precision "At the same centrality, D0 seems to behave similarly in isobar and Au+Au collisions, while light hadrons do not".

please find the updated version in the drupal or the following link:

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM_20230904_YuanSu.pdf

Best regards,

Yuan

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From:"Yi Yang" <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
Sent Time:2023-09-04 15:37:07 (Monday)
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Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review

Dear Yuan,

Thanks a lot for the updated version. It looks very good and I have some very minor comments for your consideration. 

 - p3: right plot, is it possible to add "STAR" next to D^0, just use ppt to add it. The red square has "ALICE", but no "STAR" for black circles, it is a bit strange. 

 - p4: Isobar --> isobar

 - p11: add "Neil's poster information" on this slide as well

 

* I saw you removed all the discussion about the Npar or centrality scaling, it is okay to me, but just want to make sure that you accidentally delete them since you did show something on p4. 

Cheers,

Yi

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 2:33 PM suyuann--- via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear convenors and all,

 please find the updated version in the drupal or the following link:

 https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM_09042023_YuanSu.pdf

Best regards,

Yuan

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Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review

Hi Neil,

Thanks for your nice comments. I'll implement most of them, and can you provide me some transparent background pdf for slide13-15, just as right plot on slide 13.

RCP_dR_MultiPlot;RCP_Pt_MultiPlot.pdf;RCP_Pt_MultiPlot can find in your updated link

look forward to hearing from you

Best regards,

Yuan

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Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review

Hi Yuan, your slides look great now.

Please consider the following comments below:

Slide 5: GeV —> GeV (on the pictures)

Slide 6: The mixed event method can well reproduce the combinatorial background —> The mixed event method can reproduce the combinatorial background well.

Slide 8: Isobar —> isobar

Slide 9: Isobar —> isobar

Slide 10: Isobar —> isobar

Slide 10: Significant D0 Raa suppression —> Significant D0 yield suppression (RAA is a ratio, it shows suppression of yield)

Slide 13: centralz —> central

Best of luck for the talk.

Cheers,

~ Neil

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 9:56 PM suyuann--- via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear conveners, 

  Thank you for your nice comments. I’ve implemented all of them, please find the updated version in the drupal or the following link:

   https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM_09032023_YuanSu_0.pdf

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Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review

Hi Yuan, 

on slide 10: "Theoretical models that include collisional energy loss are consistent with observed suppression" 

I would say "model", as we have one prediction. And in fact at the range that you're showing now we expect the radiative energy loss to play a role.

So I would say:

Theoretical model that include collisional and radiative energy loss are consistent with observed suppression.

Cheers,

Barbara

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 9:46 PM Ma, Rongrong via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Hello Yuan

Very nice slides. I have some comments for your considerations:

s4
- remove "QM 2022, Tong Liu" (Your talk is a STAR talk, so you do not need to cite another STAR talk.)

s5
- PID power -> PID reach

s8
- in the same centrality within uncertainties
- Right figure: change "central" to "0-10%" (if this is true) in the legend

s9
- with those in Au+Au within uncertainties

s10
- include collisional and radiative energy losses are

s13
- Suppression of D0 meson tagged jet yield -> Hint of D0 tagged jet suppression
- The reference for LIDO is wrong. It should be: PRC 98 064901. (Fix this on other slides)

s15
- LIDO model (MPI=off) describes the ratio of radial profile in data

s16
- D0 behaves -> D0 seems to behave
- Suppression of D0 jet yield -> Hint of D0 jet suppression
- LIDO model underpredicts yield suppression in central collisions, but can describe radial profile ratio between central and peripheral collisions

s20
- I suggest to replace the right figure with the one for D0 Raa vs. Npart

Best
Rongrong


> On Sep 3, 2023, at 2:05 PM, suyuann--- via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi Isaac,
> Thank you for your nice comments. I’ve implemented all of them,
> 2. thanks for concretization
> 3. I've tune the plots on page 3, 6, 7
> 6. a arrow and box are added, mixed event is used
> 7. (slope of T_eff) is added; and Teff consistent with each other is fit result, and a strong conclusion may need strangeness hadron fitting in Isobar, we may can try it later; I've redrawn it and the plot has made the canvas closer to the dimensions
> 13. "which considering heavy quark evolution in medium with collisional and radiative energy losses" is added
> 14. done
> 16. Ok and planning to verbally elaborate a bit here
> please find the updated version in the drupal or the following link:
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM_09032023_YuanSu.pdf
>
> Best regards,
> Yuan
>
>
>> -----Original Messages-----
>> From: "suyuann--- via Star-hp-l" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>> Sent Time: 2023-09-03 23:10:30 (Sunday)
>> To: "Nihar Sahoo" <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
>> Cc: suyuann AT mail.ustc.edu.cn, "STAR HardProbes PWG" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, webmaster AT star.bnl.gov
>> Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review
>>
>> Hi Nihar,
>>  Thanks for your the comment. The total number of charm is conserved. The enhancement of Lambda_c and Ds have been observed in AuAu collisions. That means more charm quarks are used to form Lambda_c and Ds, then less charm will be used for D0. This charm hadronization mechanism is consistent with a suppression of D0 yield at low pt. But the model doesn't include this charm hadrochemistry. so now we focus on the high p_T process.
>>
>> Best regrads,
>> Yuan
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Messages-----
>>> From: "Nihar Sahoo" <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
>>> Sent Time: 2023-09-03 18:13:50 (Sunday)
>>> To: suyuann AT mail.ustc.edu.cn
>>> Cc: "STAR HardProbes PWG" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, webmaster AT star.bnl.gov
>>> Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review
>>>
>>> Hello Yuan,
>>>
>>> Your current version looks good now.
>>>
>>> I have one comment on your slide3 and 10,
>>> Slide 10 figure has theory curves starting from pT > 4 GeV.
>>> Is there any reason for this change? Whereas you have plot with AuAu
>>> theory curves up to 0 GeV.
>>>
>>>  Probably I missed this discussion.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Nihar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023-08-30 03:46, suyuann AT mail.ustc.edu.cn wrote:
>>>> Dear Nihar,
>>>> Thank you for your nice comments. I’ve implemented all of them,
>>>> please find the updated version here:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM_2023_0829.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Yuan
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Messages-----
>>>>> From: "Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>> Sent Time: 2023-08-28 15:51:54 (Monday)
>>>>> To: "STAR HardProbes PWG" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>> Cc: "Nihar Sahoo" <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>, webmaster AT star.bnl.gov
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Yuan Su for Quark Matter
>>>>> 2023 submitted for review
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Yuan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for posting your nice slides.
>>>>> I have following comments on your slides.
>>>>>
>>>>> No need to make text as red color for your interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide 3:
>>>>> _ "A significant energy loss of charm quarks in isobar collisions?" ->
>>>>> sounds like you have already know the conclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>>    How about combing last two bullets
>>>>> "What is the charge quark energy loss and binary collision scaling in
>>>>> Isobar collisions?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide4:
>>>>>
>>>>> _ Title: Charm jets tagged with D^0 mesons -> Simply  " D^0 tagged jet
>>>>> in heavy-ion collisions"
>>>>>
>>>>> _ Definition of Z; please check with what Diptanil has used in his
>>>>> poster. Use the same notations.
>>>>>
>>>>> _ "A significant suppression of D0 tagged jet yield with lower D0
>>>>> kinematics at RHIC energies? " -> Remove this bullet. Not needed to
>>>>> say
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> _ Make "radial distribution of the D^0" _expression_ a bit bigger and
>>>>> move
>>>>> it up so that people can see from distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide5:
>>>>> "A diffusion of charm quarks at lower pT in Au+Au collisions at sNN =
>>>>> 200 GeV?" -> It is not clear where do you get it. I think it is not
>>>>> needed. Just go to your results in 15min talk. In QM, people want to
>>>>> see
>>>>> the results assuming they are aware of motivation.
>>>>>
>>>>> _"Contribution from the underlying background is small at RHIC" This
>>>>> is
>>>>> not absolutely correct. And not clear what underlying background you
>>>>> are
>>>>> talking. So better to remove or rephrase this.
>>>>>
>>>>> _In this slide important is to highlight the kienematic range of D^0
>>>>> that you are going to show: 1 - 10 GeV/c; That you mentioned at the
>>>>> bottom that no one will notice. Make it bigger and highlight somewhere
>>>>> up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide7:
>>>>> combination background -> combinatoric background
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide8:
>>>>> _Suggestion: Less wording is better. Try to clean it up and make a
>>>>> concise phrase or sentence
>>>>> _ VS -> vs [and elsewhere]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can bring slide4 and 5 before Slide12, so that you can tell people
>>>>> what you are going to tell next.
>>>>> Make 1-10 GeV/c kinematic slide in bold text on each slides.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slide12:
>>>>> I hope you will speak a sentence on "LIDO" comparison .
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Nihar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-08-28 10:53, webmaster--- via Star-hp-l wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yuan Su (suyuann AT mail.ustc.edu.cn) has submitted a material for a
>>>>>> review,
>>>>>> please have a look:
>>>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/64968
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deadline: 2023-09-03
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