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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity
- From: Hal Evans <hgevans AT indiana.edu>
- To: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>, "Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity
- Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:49:52 -0400
Thanks Mike!
I had a cut-and-paste error for the Muon and LAr dates. That's been corrected now.
I took the Trigger numbers from the version of the PEP posted in docdb. Elliot told me that these were still the best numbers to use - but perhaps he was referring to what was sent recently to you. I've changed the spreadsheet accordingly.
Also - Elliot sent me some physics costs of the HTT reduction, which I've incorporated into the Impact column. (Thanks Elliot!).
I'm still waiting for input from Muons on this. Once I get that I'll upload the spreadsheet to docdb.
Cheers - Hal
On 7/16/19 6:55 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:
Hi Hal,--
I looking at your sheet when updating the info for the PEP, I think there are
a number of date errors?
Descoping tab:
* What I had previously updated when I asked the L2s to update the PEP was
for Muon dates for reducing sMDTs of 12/2021, 5/2022, 9/2022, 1/2023 vs what
you show as 12/2019, 5/2019(!), 9/2019(!), 1/2019(!). The other Muon dates
are also clearly wrong 6/2019 and 3/2019.
* Is the LAr decision date really 9/2019?
* Elliot has supplied me with $1,600 cost for 2/3 TP + 1/3 RTM + 5/6 TFM --
you have a different cost and a different number of RTM boards (2/3) , so I
am wondering which is correct
* Also he gave me $1,300 cost for 1/3 TP + 0 RTM + 2/3 TFM vs yours which
shows 1/3 TP + 1/3 RTM + 2/3 TFM -- which is correct?
Cheers, Mike
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Subject: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity
Hi all,
I've compiled all of your scope contingency/opportunity numbers into the
attached table. I made a few minor modifications.
1. Trigger: I included an additional Trigger Opportunity - updating the gFEX
algorithms for Phase-2.
2. Opportunity Dates: some of these were given only at the granularity of a
year. I updated those to MMM-YY format, choosing a date arbitrarily.
Please have a look and let me know if I've made any mistakes.
Having this all compiled together highlights the fact that we are very thin
on Physics impact/motivation for the contingency/opportunities. I realize
that this will be difficult, but we should really include some sort of
discussion of how these decisions could affect ATLAS physics.
This can be hand-wavy (but obviously the more quantitative the better).
The point is to demonstrate that we've thought about this NSF requirement for
scope contingency/opportunity.
Please try to get me some input on this by Thursday.
Thanks - Hal
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[Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Hal Evans, 07/16/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity, Elliot Lipeles, 07/16/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Michael Tuts, 07/16/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Hal Evans, 07/17/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity, Michael Tuts, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Elliot Lipeles, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Hal Evans, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Elliot Lipeles, 07/17/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity, Hal Evans, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Elliot Lipeles, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Hal Evans, 07/17/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity,
Hal Evans, 07/17/2019
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