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[Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>]

Hi Hal,
Can you resend the spreadsheet? (or is it posted?)
Thanks, Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Evans <hgevans AT indiana.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 7:50 AM
To: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>; 
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Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope contingency/opportunity

Thanks Mike!

I had a cut-and-paste error for the Muon and LAr dates. That's been corrected 
now.

I took the Trigger numbers from the version of the PEP posted in docdb. 
Elliot told me that these were still the best numbers to use - but perhaps he 
was referring to what was sent recently to you. I've changed the spreadsheet 
accordingly.

Also - Elliot sent me some physics costs of the HTT reduction, which I've 
incorporated into the Impact column. (Thanks Elliot!).

I'm still waiting for input from Muons on this. Once I get that I'll upload 
the spreadsheet to docdb.

Cheers  -  Hal

On 7/16/19 6:55 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:
> Hi Hal,
>
> I looking at your sheet when updating the info for the PEP, I think there 
> are a number of date errors?
>
> Descoping tab:
>
> * What I had previously updated when I asked the L2s to update the PEP was 
> for Muon dates for reducing sMDTs of 12/2021, 5/2022, 9/2022, 1/2023 vs 
> what you show as 12/2019, 5/2019(!), 9/2019(!), 1/2019(!).  The other Muon 
> dates are also clearly wrong 6/2019 and 3/2019.
> * Is the LAr decision date really 9/2019?
> * Elliot has supplied me with $1,600 cost for 2/3 TP + 1/3 RTM + 5/6 
> TFM -- you have a different cost and a different number of RTM boards 
> (2/3) , so I am wondering which is correct
> * Also he gave me $1,300 cost for 1/3 TP + 0 RTM + 2/3 TFM vs yours which 
> shows 1/3 TP +  1/3 RTM + 2/3 TFM -- which is correct?
>
> Cheers, Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Hal Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:21 AM
> To: Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> Subject: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] scope 
> contingency/opportunity
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've compiled all of your scope contingency/opportunity numbers into the 
> attached table. I made a few minor modifications.
>
> 1. Trigger: I included an additional Trigger Opportunity - updating the 
> gFEX algorithms for Phase-2.
>
> 2. Opportunity Dates: some of these were given only at the granularity of a 
> year. I updated those to MMM-YY format, choosing a date arbitrarily.
>
> Please have a look and let me know if I've made any mistakes.
>
> Having this all compiled together highlights the fact that we are very thin 
> on Physics impact/motivation for the contingency/opportunities. I realize 
> that this will be difficult, but we should really include some sort of 
> discussion of how these decisions could affect ATLAS physics.
> This can be hand-wavy (but obviously the more quantitative the better).
> The point is to demonstrate that we've thought about this NSF requirement 
> for scope contingency/opportunity.
>
> Please try to get me some input on this by Thursday.
>
> Thanks  -  Hal
>
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