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[Mark Oreglia <oreglia AT uchicago.edu>]

Dear Mike,

we really need better guidance on this. We have done this exercise last minute in the past, cobble something together, and then hear opposing views from reviewers, management, Coles... about what is really needed. 

I gather from Saul that our FDR argument needs to show EPO made possible specifically by the MREFC, and if that is the case I can only point to the training of undergrads, grad students, and postdocs.

Sincerely,
Mark Oreglia

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On 7/24/2019 4:46 AM, Michael Tuts wrote:

Hi John,
We are late with this, but it would be good to get something reviewed, wee certainly need it for FDR. Maybe I missed sending the template, but I did send a spreadsheet with the scientific and on project labor by category (for each institution) - I hope you got that, see below. The thought was that the template would be one slide with the numbers and a brief description of the types of activities (understandable by layman)  being carried out in the subsystem.
Cheers, Mike

This was the earlier message that went to L2 and deputies...

Hi NSF scope L2M and DL2M

Some of you had asked about the statistics for Education and Public Outreach (EPO). Attached is an excel file using the DR data showing the profile (in FTE-Years) for the various kinds on manpower. The on project labor is designated by with "project" at the start of the resource name, and the scientific labor has "scientific" at the start of the resource name. It is listed by institution (so note it may have various WBS's). If you expand the groups you can see the activities for those resource types which may help in characterizing their activities. This should help in you summary of EPO activities both on and off project for your L2 talk.

Cheers, Mike

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From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 9:33 PM
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Cc: Mark Kruse <mkruse AT phy.duke.edu>
Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: Totals (FTE-Years) scientific & project (undergrad, grad, postdoc)


Hi Mike, Mark, all,

	Having only recently heard of the request to include EPO info in the L2 talks, I am scrambling to gather the relevant info for my subsystem.  Looking through the other L2 talks posted, I don't see any such info in those talks either, at least so far.  I am therefore concerned by the comment on Mark's p. 6 that says:  "Each L2 manager will describe..."
This was not part of the L2 talk template, and I am concerned we are now left scrambling to try put something coherent and at least somewhat uniform across subsystems together, and this comment in Mark's plenary talk might serve mostly to highlight that we are not so well prepared for this?

		John

On 7/22/19 6:25 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:

FYI and forward further if you wish. Send any comments to Mark Kruse.

*From:* Mark Kruse <mkruse AT phy.duke.edu>
*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 5:50 PM
*To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>
*Cc:* usatlas-hllhc-management-l AT lists.bnl.gov
*Subject:* Re: Totals (FTE-Years) scientific & project (undergrad, 
grad,
postdoc)

Hi Mike, All,

Attached is my draft EPO talk. I am also updating the assocated document.

I can incorporate any suggestions or comments easily before noon this 
Wed,

and with more difficulty thereafter due to travelling.

Thanks,

              Mark




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