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[Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>]

Thanks for the comments. I'm changing '5 years' to 'several years' and I passed Paul's comments along to management and HR (with my agreement).

  Torre

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:04 PM Van Buren, Gene <gene AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Hi,

Following on Paul's comment, it does seem to me to be a bit much to ask for 5 years of software development experience for a post-doc level position. Some PhD programs are shorter than 5 years, and the first couple years of PhD are often dominated by class work... so to me this experience qualification implies asking for someone looking for their second postdoc term.

-Gene


> On May 27, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Laycock, Paul via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Thanks Torre,
> Indeed, I'm happy my comments are being heard!  I think there's a mismatch between the quality of individual described (and they have a great set of skills) and the expectations of said individual.  I don't have any ideas for how to fix that except to say that contract longevity rates highly and such an individual would likely (?) have other options.  Not for this time maybe, but stretching the funding to 3 years could look more attractive to candidates, gives us a better look at them and gives us more time to find funding lines when we have a person we really want to keep.  The funding likely doesn't provide that flexibility but a big lab should be able to make such things possible - I wonder how creative other labs are in that regard?
>
> Paul
>
>
>> On 27 May 2020, at 12:28, Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>> I was sensitive to that point (I knew you'd be on the lookout for it, and rightly so :-) This is why it contains
>>
>> "an interest in scientific software development as a potential career path"
>>
>> and
>>
>> "The position will have an initial 2 year term, potentially extendable as funding permits."
>>
>> I hesitate to add the 'excellent track record' point only because we are not necessarily fully in control of this one. The physics half could end up in Omega, and then it is 50% CSI, a total wildcard.
>>
>>   Torre
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:16 PM Laycock, Paul <laycock AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I think this looks great.  My only comment is that a 2 year contract for a relocation to BNL for the relatively senior person described (5 years s/w experience) could be tough but I'm sure there's little you can do about that.  I wonder if adding a sentence on "excellent track record of retaining talent" could help make a direct association between the promised s/w career benefit and the future employer?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>> On 27 May 2020, at 11:45, Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
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>>> Not too late to get changes into the position description if you think of important ones!
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Allen, Leesa <leesa AT bnl.gov>
>>> Date: Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: New Hire Request - US ATLAS / CSI Postdoc
>>> To: Forestiero, Suzanne <sforestiero AT bnl.gov>, Colon, Christel <ccolon AT bnl.gov>
>>> Cc: Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>, Wenaus,Torre J <wenaus AT bnl.gov>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Suzanne,
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Please see the attached new job posting for a postdoc position for US ATLAS and CSI under the direction of Torre Wenaus.  Please let me know when to okay to enter in TAMS.
>>>
>>> 
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>>> Thanks,
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>>> Leesa
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