STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

[Dhananjaya Thakur <thakurdhana AT gmail.com>]

Dear Subhash,

Thanks a lot for the detailed comment.

I have implemented them in v2.

 https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Hot_qcd_dthakur_v2.pdf.

Please have a look.

Thank you.

with regards

Dhananjaya

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   1. FCV PWG meeting on 29/June/2022 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT (subhash)
   2. Re: FCV PWG meeting on 29/June/2022 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT (LikeLiu)
   3. Re: STAR presentation by Prabhupada Dixit for ICHEP 2022
      submitted for review (pdixit)
   4. Re: STAR presentation by Dhananjaya Thakur for Hot QCD Matter
      2022 submitted for review (subhash)
   5. Re: STAR presentation by Vipul Bairathi for ICHEP 2022
      submitted for review (vipul)
   6. Re: STAR presentation by Charles Robertson for DNP 2022
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 16:19:22 +0800
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Subject: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 29/June/2022 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
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Dear All,

We shall have our weekly FCV PWG meeting this Wednesday (29/June/2022)
at 9:30 AM EDT. If you would like to present please let us know. Please
try posting your slides by Tuesday. The agenda items will be collected
at: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/jjiastar/bulkcorr

As you might have seen during analysis meeting that it is recommended
that the BES-II papers should include all energies. So we would like
have a general discussion on the publication strategy for BES-II data
from FCV.

Thanks and regards,
Jiangyong, Prithwish and Subhash


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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 16:57:19 +0800
From: LikeLiu <likeliu AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>
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Dear Conveners,

I would like to present ?Directed flow of kaons in Au+Au collisions at 3.2 GeV? in this week's meeting, and the slides would be sent later.

Thanks and best regards,
Li-Ke

> 2022?6?27? ??4:19?subhash via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> ???
>
> Dear All,
>
> We shall have our weekly FCV PWG meeting this Wednesday (29/June/2022) at 9:30 AM EDT. If you would like to present please let us know. Please try posting your slides by Tuesday. The agenda items will be collected at: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/jjiastar/bulkcorr
>
> As you might have seen during analysis meeting that it is recommended that the BES-II papers should include all energies. So we would like have a general discussion on the publication strategy for BES-II data from FCV.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Jiangyong, Prithwish and Subhash
>
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:53:20 +0530
From: pdixit <pdixit AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
To: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
Cc: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG"
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Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Prabhupada Dixit for
        ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
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Dear Subhash,
Thank you for the suggestions. I have updated the slides with examples
of analysis cut variations.
updated
slide:https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/ICHEP_slide_v3.pdf

Regards,
Prabhupada

On 2022-06-26 21:22, subhash wrote:
> Dear Prabhupada,
>
> slide#4: "Source of systematic uncertainty: Various analysis cuts
> variation"
> Could you indicate examples of analysis cut variations.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Subhash
>
> On 2022-06-24 07:12 PM, pdixit via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Dear Subhash and Prithwish,
>> Thank you for the comments and suggestions. I have updated my slides
>> accordingly. Below are some answers to your comments.
>> To Subhash:
>>>> For the Omega, is it combined Omega- and Omega+ ?
>> No, It's only Omega-.
>>>> Can you do similar fit, I mean either fit to KS0 or phi for both v2
>>>> and v3?
>> Yes, I have fitted with KS0 and updated the slides.
>>>> Right two v3 figures: Define what is p0, is it fit to all particles?
>> It's a simultaneous fit to all the particles ratio except KS0.
>>>> Can you do the similar straight line fit for left v2 figure as well.
>> I tried doing the same but a zeroth order polynomial is not fitting
>> the v2/nq of particles well, because for lambda and proton the ratio
>> is not flat with pT so fitting with pol0 is giving wrong results.
>> To Prithwish:
>>>> Slide#5: Can you please remind me why BES-II TPC EP resolution is
>>>> 10%
>>>> larger even with the same acceptance?
>> The acceptance is not same. The eta acceptance is increased for EP
>> (-1.5 < eta < 1.5) compared to BES-I.
>> I have also added a slide of centrality dependence v2 plot at 19.6
>> GeV.
>> The link to the updated slide:
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/ICHEP_slide_v2.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Prabhupada
>>
>>
>> On 2022-06-23 20:07, Prithwish Tribedy via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>> Dear Prabhupada,
>>>   Nice slides. Please consider my following comments. With these
>>> included I sign off.
>>>
>>> Slide#4: Indicate the number of events analyzed. Also, please add a
>>> statement about your source of systematics.
>>> Slide#5: Can you please remind me why BES-II TPC EP resolution is 10%
>>> larger even with the same acceptance?
>>> Slide#12:  I am not sure if this statement is correct: "Third order
>>> flow coefficient (v3) is proportional to the v_2^{3/2}"
>>> How about:
>>> "Correlation between v_3 and v_2^{3/2}"
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Prithwish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2022-06-23 00:08, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>>
>>>> Prabhupada Dixit (prabhupadad AT iiserbpr.ac.in) has submitted a
>>>> material for a
>>>> review, please have a look:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/60028
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 18:31:38 +0800
From: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG"
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Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Dhananjaya Thakur for
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Dear Dhananjaya,

Nice proceedings. I have appended my comments to the pdf file at:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/dthakur_hotqcd_0_SS.pdf

Thanks and regards,
Subhash

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:11:07 +0530
From: vipul <vipul AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
To: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
Cc: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG"
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Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Vipul Bairathi for
        ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
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Dear Subhash,

Thank you for your comments.

Please find updated slides in the following link:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Vipul_ICHEPtalk2022_v2.pdf

Thanks,
With Regards,
Vipul

On 2022-06-26 21:01, subhash wrote:
> Dear Vipul,
>
> I sign off with two minor comments:
>
> slide#3: strange hadrons gives direct --> "direct" seems to be hidden
> under the isobar cartoon. Please check.
> slide#6: 1st bullet, for V0 reconstruction, you can probably mention
> reconstruction method: KFParticle or Traditional topological cuts
> using Helix method.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Subhash
>
> On 2022-06-24 08:51 PM, vipul via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Dear Prithwish,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. We have updated
>> the presentation with these.
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Vipul_ICHEPtalk2022_v1.pdf
>>
>> Please find my reply to questions inline below.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> With Regards,
>> Vipul
>>
>> On 2022-06-23 01:21, Prithwish Tribedy via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>> Dear Vipul,
>>>   Nice slides, please consider my following comments. With these
>>> included I sign off.
>>>
>>> General comments:
>>> Put a comment on the errorbars on each slide showing the plots like
>>> you do on slide#13. Specify if only statistical errors are plotted.
>>> References: Use the standard format, such as "M. S. Abdallah et al.
>>> (STAR Collaboration) Phys. Rev. C 105, 014901". Cosmetic suggestion:
>>> it would be good to use similar color for the references (say blue).
>>>
>>>
>>> Slide#2: "?R" --> "?_R"
>>> Slide#2: "stage of" --> "stages of"
>>>
>>> Slide#3: How about this: "System size dependence of the azimuthal
>>> anisotropy" --> "System size dependence of the azimuthal
>>> anisotropy by comparing isobars, Cu+Cu, Au+Au and U+U"
>>> Slide#3: "STAR, Phys. Rev. C 105 (2022) 14901" --> "M. S. Abdallah et
>>> al. (STAR Collaboration) Phys. Rev. C 105, 014901"
>>>
>>> Slide#4: "Approximately 1.3 B events have been analys(z)ed" -- Not
>>> clear, is this for each species ?
>> total events are 1.3 B (Ru+Ru plus Zr+Zr).
>> We have updated the slide with analysed events individual for each
>> system now.
>>
>>> Slide#4: Somewhere on this slide or later you need to add a comment
>>> on the
>>>  sources of systematics for this analysis.
>>>
>>> Slide#5: "?i --> ?_i"
>>> Slide#5: "two different windows" --> "two different pseudorapidity
>>> windows"
>>> Slide#5: In the third bullet add "using ?-sub event approach". An
>>> average sign <..> is missing in this equation inside "?".
>>> Slide#5: In the legend of the figure: "?_2<....>0.05<|?|<1.0" -->
>>> "?_2
>>> (0.05<|?|<1.0)", remove the space and put parentheses.
>>>
>>> Slide#6: Can we make the figures bigger?
>> Yes. We have increased the size of figures.
>>
>>>
>>> Slide#7: "with a function" --> "with a Fourier fit function"
>>> Slide#7: what is the rapidity window for these results ?
>> The rapidity window is added to the plots.
>>
>>> Slide#10: Why the acceptance for ? is different from that of ? ?
>>> According to slide 8, don't we have ? meson results for |y|<1 ? Is
>>> this a typo ?
>> No. It's not a typo, for current results phi-meson rapidity window is
>> |y| < 0.5 and for other particles it is |y| < 1.0.
>> Later, we will do phi-meson analysis also in the same |y| < 1.0.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Slide#11: The rapidity window should be mentioned.
>>>
>>> Slide#12: I realized that the legends for the black dashed lines are
>>> missing in the plots, we can add them next to the numbers in the
>>> blue.
>>> Slide#12: Looking at the numbers for ?, I see that the ratio is about
>>> 2% which is larger from what we saw in STAR isobar paper for charged
>>> hadrons (~1%) in mid-central events. We need to understand this. Can
>>> you remind me how were the systematic errors propagated in the ratio?
>> We first added statistical and systematic uncertainties in quadrature
>> for the v2 results then for the ratio, we have propagate error
>> according to the standard error propagation formula (assuming
>> independent measurements for different systems).
>>
>>> Slide#12: "May indicate larger nuclear deformity
>>> in Ru than in Zr nucleus" --> "May indicate nuclear shape and
>>> structure difference between the two isobars"
>>>
>>>
>>> Slide#13: "*Error bars..." -- Good, add such comments on other slides
>>> as well.
>>> Slide#13: Polish the last bullet to indicate that there are large
>>> systematics.
>>>
>>> Slide#14: "May indicate higher deformation in Ru than in Zr nuclei"
>>> --> "May be related to nuclear shape and structure difference between
>>> the two isobars"
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Prithwish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:06:19 +0000
From: "Robertson, Charles William" <rober558 AT purdue.edu>
To: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and
        Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Charles Robertson for
        DNP 2022 submitted for review
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Thank you for your approval and comments.

The updated version is here: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/DNP2022Abs_Rpsi2_v2.pdf

-CW
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Dear Charles,

After consulting with CME focus group conveners, our recommendation is
to remove "improved" from the title and in the main text. In the main
text (line 19-20),  you can use something like variants of R-correlator,
or an alternative approach for R-observable. We are approving this
abstract with the presumption that there is plenty of time to reach a
consensus on the presentation of results within STAR.

Thanks and regards,
Subhash

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