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["Xu, Hao" <haoxu AT bnl.gov>]

Thanks John. The updated slides and spreadsheet have been uploaded to indico.
Regards,
Hao

-----Original Message-----
From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:22 PM
To: Xu, Hao <haoxu AT bnl.gov>; Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>; 
usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] LAr HL-LHC weekly mtg


Hi Hao/Hong,

        Your slides look good.  I give
a few comments below.

                John

Hong
p. 13 - "... is no longer necessary and therefore is discontinued (~ 100k 
savings)"

p. 16 - 6.4.5 (not 6.5.4)

p. 17 - you should check with Hucheng, but I think the packaging costs in the 
ATLAS LAr BOE are from BNL in fact

p. 18 "... in lots of 25 wafers"

p. 19 "Updated production cost for PA/Shaper, based on new quote from CERN"

Hao
p. 6 - add bullet for FE along lines of
"Integrate early - perform system performance tests of Analog Testboard and 
Slice Testboard as soon as available"

p. 12 - add initial bullet saying
"True up" of System Integration schedule needed to wait for FEB2 and BE 
schedules to be updated. Now that is done, have prepared changes to System 
Integration RLS and are ready to implement them as soon as we can start a new 
DOE BCP.

p. 12 - instead of "Add a new task" say "Adapt to delay in FEB2 development 
(due to PA/S and lpGBT delays) and reduce risk by performing first system 
tests on Analog Testboard, instead of waiting for Slice Testboard"

On 3/27/19 10:11 PM, Xu, Hao wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> I updated the slides and spreadsheet on the indico.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hao
> 
> *From:* Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l
> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> *On Behalf Of *Ma, 
> Hong
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2019 6:23 PM
> *To:* Parsons, John <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>; 
> usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] LAr HL-LHC weekly mtg
> 
>                  I updated my slides on the indico.
> 
> https://indico.bnl.gov/event/5917/
> 
>                  Hong.
> 
> *From: *Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l
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> John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu 
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> *Date: *Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1:43 PM
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> *Subject: *Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] LAr HL-LHC weekly mtg
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I uploaded a draft of the slides for my
> 
> L3 talk; comments are welcome.  I now have to work
> 
> on preparing the agenda page.  I will look later at
> 
> Hao's draft slides, and everyone else let me know
> 
> if you upload an updated version.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> On 3/26/19 9:45 PM, John Parsons wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>            I give below a few quick comments on the draft slides
> 
>     posted so far.  I have also posted a preliminary version
> 
>     of my draft L2 overview slides; please take a look and
> 
>     send me comments.  (the parts about BE firmware are still
> 
>     subject to change, as we work with Kj to understand what
> 
>     is going on there, but the rest should be stable.)
> 
>                John
> 
>     Tim
> 
>     p. 15 - what does "Boundary conditions" mean in this context?
> 
>     pp. 1 - 18 - good for external review, but perhaps too long
> 
>     and detailed for internal scrubbing?  Consider shortening
> 
>     p. 24 - your signs are reversed.  Calculate new-old
> 
>            - VL+ has increased by almost $0.5M ??!!
> 
>            - I sent you costs for COLUTAv2 testboard
> 
>     and radiation testboard. Can't you use those to
> 
>     update the test jig costs?
> 
>     pp. 25-28 - include on slides previous costs, so
> 
>     direct comparison can be made
> 
>     p. 32 - "SMY"
> 
>     Andy
> 
>     p. 2 - edit to remove my email comments
> 
>     p. 5 - "US previously responsible for Carrier board...
> 
>     as well as passive RTM (similar to Phase 1)"
> 
>     p. 10 - stress that new h/w cost estimate and new
> 
>     quotes included in current Scrubbing Report
> 
>     p. 11 "better naming conventions" change to
> 
>     "adapt to ATLAS LAr naming conventions"
> 
>     - will need to add slides on solution to
> 
>     f/w cost issue, once resolved with Kj
> 
>     Hong
> 
>     p. 12 - LAUROC1 includes shaper from BNL, so stress
> 
>     a bit more the collab. and don't imply ALFE vs
> 
>     LAUROC is a "competition"
> 
>     p. 15 - "removing the future effort at U Penn"
> 
>     p. 17 - say current M&S comes from ATLAS BOE, and now
> 
>     you are ready to update with a new quote; also quantify
> 
>     difference in cost with new quote
> 
>     p. 19 - what about new quotes for test jigs, packaging?
> 
>            - "removing risks" means "retiring" or
> 
>     "implementing", or ...?
> 
>     On 3/25/19 6:59 AM, John Parsons wrote:
> 
>         Hello all,
> 
>               We will meet this week in our usual
> 
>         timeslot of Tuesday at 1 pm NY time.
> 
>         I have created an agenda page at
> 
>         https://indico.bnl.gov/event/5917/.
> 
>               The man topic will be the status
> 
>         of preparations for the Scrubbing at
> 
>         BNL on Thurs.+Fri. this week.
> 
>               In addition to the usual materials
> 
>         (RLS, BOE, ...) needed for each review,
> 
>         each L3 should prepare some introductory
> 
>         slides for the Scrubbing that cover
> 
>         the following topics:
> 
>         - very brief overview of deliverables
> 
>         and institutions involved (just to remind
> 
>         people what the L3 is about)
> 
>         - brief technical status, emphasizing
> 
>         progress since last review and upcoming
> 
>         major steps (eg. milestones) over next
> 
>         ~ 9 - 12 months
> 
>         - for NSF, description of boundary
> 
>         between preMREFC and MFREC
> 
>         - summary of changes implemented to RLS
> 
>         since previous review (discuss separately
> 
>         those covered by an approved BCP and those
> 
>         implemented in the current RLS but not
> 
>         yet approved)
> 
>         - summary of changes still needed to
> 
>         be implemented in RLS, if any.  (particularly
> 
>         relevent for BE and Syst. Integ., but others
> 
>         can point out here if they have realized
> 
>         any changes still needed)
> 
>         - updates M&S costs, due to updating quotes
> 
>         - status of Risk register, and any changes
> 
>         since last review either implemented or
> 
>         needed
> 
>               Start working right away on these
> 
>         slides, which will be important to organize and
> 
>         steer the discussion at the Scrubbing.  It is
> 
>         particularly important to present coherently
> 
>         the changes that still need to be made.  As
> 
>         soon as you have even a partial draft of the
> 
>         slides, post them to the indico page above,
> 
>         so that we can iterate together and try achieve
> 
>         some consistency across L3s.
> 
>               Talk to you tomorrow.`
> 
>               Regards,
> 
>                       John
> 
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> 
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