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["Kiselev, Alexander" <ayk AT bnl.gov>]

  Dear Pierrick,

  Thank you, I can now see the ASIC addresses. Let's assume neither Tim nor Dan nor Gabor find anything in the drawings which would be an absolute showstopper for this first iteration. In the unlikely case they do, we will see whether your manufacturer will accept possible last minute changes. Sounds good.

  Cheers,

    Alexander.

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From: Pierrick Dinaucourt <pdinaucourt AT omega.in2p3.fr>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 10:09 AM
To: Kiselev, Alexander <ayk AT bnl.gov>; Gábor Nagy <hunagabo AT gmail.com>; Cacace, Daniel <dcacace AT bnl.gov>; Miklos Czeller <miklos.czeller AT mediso.com>
Cc: Camarda, Timothy via Eic-projdet-pfrich-electronics-l <eic-projdet-pfrich-electronics-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: Final modifications to the V0 FPGA board

 

Dear Alexander,

I order the PCB today, we have 14 working days to manufacture them and 1-2 days for shipping. I wrote you on a previous mail we have 50 Asics for you (Hgcroc3a) but I don't know if they are for this iteration or if they are for V1 also. You have to discuss about that with Christophe and Damien.

It's right my drawing isn't updated, i need to that. The .gif animation is only here for understanding and presentation.

I use silkscreen to indicate the I2C adress, but when the FMC board is plugged you won't read of course. You can use the page 10 of the document 2310_hrppd_asic_board_v0.pdf, you'll see the Reference Design (for assembly) and below the I2C adress.

The legend always says M1...M16 because they are the Reference Design used by manufacturer to mount BGA on the PCB (and write on the BOM list). You can make a corresponding table with the RD and the number of Asic following the I2C Adress if you want.

Regards

Pierrick

Le 24/11/2023 à 15:36, Kiselev, Alexander a écrit :

  Dear Pierrick,

  Very good news! Daniel, Tim: once you are back from the long weekend holidays (Monday), will you have time to have a quick look through the 3D model consistency and the schematics overall? Tim, be aware that this board will be ordered in France. Gabor, please also have a look, in particular let's verify that the Samtec connector pin-out is now identical in both FMC and ASIC boards.

  Pierrick, few comments / questions:

  (1) I understand, you are going to order the boards about Tuesday next week? How many and how many ASICs are we really going to expend on this iteration? I'm not sure I understand how big is your "stock". It would be really silly if at the end we run out of ASICs, and cannot find healthy 80 ones we need for V1

  (2) see attached. I believe the Y-coordinates of some of the highlighted holes are not indicated. 3.5mm seems to be about right as a distance to the HV holes

  (3) the assembly "video" is a bit misleading: there will be no heat sink in case of the FMC board, because of the conflict with a Twinax cable

  (4) can you provide a drawing indicating ASIC 0..7 mapping in both halves? we will need it at some point anyway. Right now the legend still says M1..M16

  I'm going to distribute r15 of the interface document over the weekend after having incorporated all the recent feedback.

  Cheers,

    Alexander.

 

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From: Pierrick Dinaucourt <pdinaucourt AT omega.in2p3.fr>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 6:01 AM
To: Kiselev, Alexander <ayk AT bnl.gov>; Gábor Nagy <hunagabo AT gmail.com>; Cacace, Daniel <dcacace AT bnl.gov>; Miklos Czeller <miklos.czeller AT mediso.com>
Cc: Camarda, Timothy via Eic-projdet-pfrich-electronics-l <eic-projdet-pfrich-electronics-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: Final modifications to the V0 FPGA board

 

Dear All,

this is a new link here to download many documents about the Hrppd_Asic_board_v0 :

https://mycore.core-cloud.net/index.php/s/77fHP7AvPFCutzt

and the new final step file (no change for mechanics):

https://mycore.core-cloud.net/index.php/s/TGg0jHv4MlcwtZy

Regards

Pierrick

Le 21/11/2023 à 10:28, Pierrick Dinaucourt a écrit :

Dear Alexander,

for me it's ok, the design is over. I check the last point and I'm speaking with the manufacturer to correct some details. I'll share with you the documents, Gerber, schema and step asap.

The order will be send this week and after it's 3 weeks to have the PCB. We think also for the assembly and the number of Asic we need. I'm not sure we can provide more than 50 Asics actually now. With this we can do one complete card with 16 asics, 2 others with 8 asics and 4 cards with 4 asics.

Regards

Pierrick

Le 21/11/2023 à 03:13, Kiselev, Alexander a écrit :

  Dear All,

  now that the FMC board purchase order request is placed in the system here at BNL (and the manufacturer actually started the EQ procedure with us), let's turn back to the other three parts of the V0 configuration:

  (1) Pierrick, when do you think you can be ready with the ASIC board design?

  (2) Gabor, Daniel and Miklos: since adding thermistors to the ASIC board is pretty much excluded in V0 iteration (it better be out for manufacturing as soon as ready), can we do a meaningful test of this safety feature functionality mounting them onto the FPGA board? Will we need them also on the FPGA board in V1? Then what model, how many and where? As to the V1, Daniel would like to place at least one per a pair of ASICs (if not one per ASIC). Will we have enough pins in Samtec connectors to allow for this in V1 iteration, at all?

  (2a) Gabor, what are your current timelines to finish the FPGA board? Do we still need to discuss anything substantially new other than the cooling system interface?

  (3) Daniel, Gabor: are we all clear about the layout of the additional FPGA cooling plates with fins? Or we wait until Daniel has time to distribute a complete cooling setup model? Gabor, do you have a preliminary CAD model of the FPGA board, to help Daniel?

  (3a) Daniel: are we going to provide power to the fan in V0 via a separate cable?

  Cheers,

    Alexander.

-- 
Pierrick Dinaucourt
PCB Designer
Laboratoire OMEGA
Unité CNRS-Polytechnique
tél: 01-69-33-89-83

-- 
Pierrick Dinaucourt
PCB Designer
Laboratoire OMEGA
Unité CNRS-Polytechnique
tél: 01-69-33-89-83

-- 
Pierrick Dinaucourt
PCB Designer
Laboratoire OMEGA
Unité CNRS-Polytechnique
tél: 01-69-33-89-83