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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- From: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 05:17:43 -0600
Jin and Abhisek,
Thanks for putting this together, after last week's beamline scare I thought maybe we better have a plan that would get us some of what we want in short order in case the septa failed completely.
Looking over the list and thinking what we need to get done this weekend to confirm that we have everything connected and working to the best of our knowledge, I think we should spend most of our time this weekend at -8 GeV and take data at
- sweet spot of EMCAL3
- PbGl
- HCAL only
- sweet spot of EMCAL2
in that order, which will debug/verify the hodoscope, the Cerenkov counters, our own detectors, and give us some experience with the wire chamber data, and would let us exercise new analysis necessary for the EMCAL3 (the channel map is new). It seems to me that ideally, we could then produce, albeit with unit calibration constants, resolutions for the two EMCAL's and the HCAL alone which could be directly compared with last year.
In looking at what we've installed and done, I think it would better than trying to start with a big calibration scan, before we have fully established that everything is works and we can analyze it as we did at the end of the last beam test, and we'll be lucky to get through this in a weekend. Also, it doesn't require a lot of beam development, and since the beam has been off for so long, there may be startup hiccups when we ask for changed conditions. -8 GeV seems like a good way to start for that reason, and because we have a lot of data from last time there. If we take this, have time to study it, and are ready to go on, I think the next thing would be an energy scan in the PbGl. I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl item in the wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with in one BCO." As far as I know, there is no way to synchronize the ADC clock with beam events, and I hope that nothing we did in the past relied on the peak being in any particular sample.
Also, we will be sharing time for the next few days with T-1068, which I believe is development of an SVX4-based Si telescope by groups from KEK and Osaka for tests of ATLAS pixel and strip detectors, I would guess they'll want 120 GeV protons, and if we wanted to run parasitically with them (not sure we have the person-power to do that), we could in principle take MIP calibration data with them in the beam, they should be pretty low mass.
To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and look at it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we deem worth analysing. We'll have to exercise some care in changing EMCAL's, since the geometry and channel map are different, but the data will look exactly the same unless we do something to identify it. We could change the packet id, I suppose, but that would take the HCAL and hodoscope with it. Also, we have to make some changes to the database to account for two emcal's and changes to the hcal controller.
On 1/18/17 3:51 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:
Hi, Everyone
In the HCal meeting today, John Haggerty asked Abhisek and I to come up
with a wish list for key measurements for the on-going beam test.
Please find a draft EMCal data wish list at this link:
https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMCal_Standalone_Data.
Seven data set was rated high, mid and low. Welcomed to give suggestions
or edit the list on wiki.
Cheers,
Jin
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*Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
Hi Don,
Thanks for the update! I certainly appreciate that you want to keep
the engineering meeting tight, but I'll look forward to poking through
the slides.
John
On 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, Lynch, Don wrote:
Hi John,
We won’t have any Engineering input for tomorrow’s meeting, as we
are meeting with Walt Sondheim on MAPS parameters at the same time.
We do have a BNL internal Calorimeter engineering meeting on Friday
to go over Anatoli’s latest analyses, Rich’s current light
collection design status and general engineering issues for
finalizing HCal mechanical design (steel, light collection, etc.,
inner and outer) and advancing the EMCal mechanical design.
We are not putting this on bluejeans, as we want to keep the
engineering discussion tight, but we will post some slides on Indico.
- Don Lynch
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*Subject: *[Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
Dear HCAL'ers:
It's been a while, but we will resume our bi-weekly HCAL
meetings this coming Wednesday, Jan 18th, at 2:30PM BNL time. The
agenda is evolving here at:
https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=2762
I'm hoping we can get an update on the test beam, and maybe some
additional contributions.
Regards,
John
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[Sphenix-emcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Huang, Jin, 01/18/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
woody, 01/18/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Huang, Jin, 01/18/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list, woody, 01/18/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Huang, Jin, 01/18/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
John Haggerty, 01/20/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Martin Purschke, 01/20/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Abhisek Sen, 01/20/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list, Martin Purschke, 01/20/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
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