sPHENIX EMCal discussion

[John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>]

Jin,

Look at the bottom of the  EMCAL SiPM's tab here:

> https://docdb.sphenix.bnl.gov/0000/000034/001/T1044-2017a-2.xlsx

Sean and I spot checked a number of these towers at BNL.  There could be 
mistakes, but cosmics look reasonable.

On 1/20/17 9:06 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:
> Hi, Martin and all
>
> Thanks! This flag is very convenient. This switch is incorporated into a 
> not-yet-merged prototype3 production code:
> https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a
>
> Now I will also appreciate if someone could point to me the new HBD channel 
> map for high-eta EMCal, which will put here:
> https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a#diff-4943c7156628a48058c793384d2269b3
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jin
>
> ______________________________
>
> Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
>
> Associate Physicist
> Brookhaven National Laboratory
> Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
> Upton, NY 11973-5000
>
> Office: 631-344-5898
> Cell:   757-604-9946
> ______________________________
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
> > bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Martin Purschke
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:37 PM
> > To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
> >
> > All, especially Jin,
> >
> > I started to summarize the current PRDF structure changes as compared to
> > 2017.
> >
> > I added a chapter "What is new in the data structures in 2017" in
> > https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#What
> > _is_new_in_the_data_structures_in_2017
> >
> > Basically we are reading more scalers in packet 910/911, and added one
> > camera packet 944 (not to let a cam go to waste).
> >
> > begin-run packet 905 (just its presence, not content) indicates that the new
> > (high-eta) emcal is connected. Example code on the Wiki.
> >
> > Best,
> >         Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/17 16:20, Huang, Jin wrote:
> > > Hi, John and Martin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the lots of work initiating the test. 8-GeV scan sounds
> > > like a good plan. And I think Martin's marker packet in PRDF will be
> > > very useful for analysis too (good to have a copy in numerical format too).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl item in the
> > >
> > > > wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
> > > in one
> > >
> > > > BCO."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm. I guess I should say move the PbGL signal earlier in the sample
> > > train. In the past run 2016, the PbGL was recorded with peak around
> > > sample 15-21. Almost for all events, the tail of ADC spectrum just
> > > fall off the cliff beyond max sample of 24. Although one can still fit
> > > for the max, this prevented us to perform an analysis of 1100V to
> > > 1200V comparison by just integrate the ADC count (although signal
> > > shape could change between two HV settings, presumably the ADC
> > > integral remain the same.). Example 2016 data shown below.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Therefore, the request I meant is to move the PbGL trigger to come
> > > 100-150ns later, so we could sample the whole curve. Wiki updated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
> > > look at
> > >
> > > > it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
> > > > deem
> > >
> > > > worth analyzing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A wiki run list will be useful. Just chat with Chris, that we will
> > > setup a new code base for prototype-3 analysis and decouple it with
> > > prototype-2. A channel map will be useful in setting up the PRDF
> > > unpacker. Most other infrastructure should be similar. When production
> > > is setup, I also need to work on the analysis tutorial ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Associate Physicist
> > >
> > > Brookhaven National Laboratory
> > >
> > > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
> > >
> > > Upton, NY 11973-5000
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Office: 631-344-5898
> > >
> > > Cell:   757-604-9946
> > >
> > > ______________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > > From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
> > >
> > > > bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of John Haggerty
> > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:18 AM
> > >
> > > > To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov; sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Jin and Abhisek,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for putting this together, after last week's beamline scare I
> > > thought
> > >
> > > > maybe we better have a plan that would get us some of what we want in
> > >
> > > > short order in case the septa failed completely.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Looking over the list and thinking what we need to get done this
> > > weekend to
> > >
> > > > confirm that we have everything connected and working to the best of
> > > > our
> > >
> > > > knowledge, I think we should spend most of our time this weekend at
> > >
> > > > -8 GeV and take data at
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > - sweet spot of EMCAL3
> > >
> > > > - PbGl
> > >
> > > > - HCAL only
> > >
> > > > - sweet spot of EMCAL2
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > in that order, which will debug/verify the hodoscope, the Cerenkov
> > > counters,
> > >
> > > > our own detectors, and give us some experience with the wire chamber
> > > > data,
> > >
> > > > and would let us exercise new analysis necessary for the
> > >
> > > > EMCAL3 (the channel map is new).  It seems to me that ideally, we
> > > > could
> > >
> > > > then produce, albeit with unit calibration constants, resolutions for
> > > the two
> > >
> > > > EMCAL's and the HCAL alone which could be directly compared with last
> > > year.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > In looking at what we've installed and done, I think it would better
> > > > than
> > >
> > > > trying to start with a big calibration scan, before we have fully
> > > established
> > >
> > > > that everything is works and we can analyze it as we did at the end
> > > > of
> > > the last
> > >
> > > > beam test, and we'll be lucky to get through this in a weekend.
> > > > Also, it
> > >
> > > > doesn't require a lot of beam development, and since the beam has
> > > > been off
> > >
> > > > for so long, there may be startup hiccups when we ask for changed
> > >
> > > > conditions.  -8 GeV seems like a good way to start for that reason,
> > > > and
> > >
> > > > because we have a lot of data from last time there.  If we take this,
> > > have time
> > >
> > > > to study it, and are ready to go on, I think the next thing would be
> > > an energy
> > >
> > > > scan in the PbGl.  I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl
> > > > item
> > > in the
> > >
> > > > wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
> > > in one
> > >
> > > > BCO."  As far as I know, there is no way to synchronize the ADC clock
> > > > with
> > >
> > > > beam events, and I hope that nothing we did in the past relied on the
> > > > peak
> > >
> > > > being in any particular sample.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Also, we will be sharing time for the next few days with T-1068,
> > > > which I
> > >
> > > > believe is development of an SVX4-based Si telescope by groups from
> > > > KEK
> > >
> > > > and Osaka for tests of ATLAS pixel and strip detectors, I would guess
> > > they'll
> > >
> > > > want 120 GeV protons, and if we wanted to run parasitically with them
> > > > (not
> > >
> > > > sure we have the person-power to do that), we could in principle take
> > > > MIP
> > >
> > > > calibration data with them in the beam, they should be pretty low mass.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
> > > look at
> > >
> > > > it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
> > > > deem
> > >
> > > > worth analysing.  We'll have to exercise some care in changing
> > > > EMCAL's,
> > >
> > > > since the geometry and channel map are different, but the data will
> > > > look
> > >
> > > > exactly the same unless we do something to identify it.  We could
> > > change the
> > >
> > > > packet id, I suppose, but that would take the HCAL and hodoscope with it.
> > >
> > > > Also, we have to make some changes to the database to account for two
> > >
> > > > emcal's and changes to the hcal controller.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On 1/18/17 3:51 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Hi, Everyone
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > In the HCal meeting today, John Haggerty asked Abhisek and I to
> > > > > come
> > >
> > > > > up with a wish list for key measurements for the on-going beam test.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Please find a draft EMCal data wish list at this link:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMC
> > >
> > <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> > C
> > > al_Standalone_Data>
> > >
> > > > al_Standalone_Data
> > <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> > Cal_Standalone_Data>.
> > > > > Seven data set was rated high, mid and low. Welcomed to give
> > >
> > > > > suggestions or edit the list on wiki.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Jin
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > ______________________________
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Associate Physicist
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Brookhaven National Laboratory
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Upton, NY 11973-5000
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Office: 631-344-5898
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Cell:   757-604-9946
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > ______________________________
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > *From:*sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
> > >
> > > > > [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] *On Behalf Of *John
> > >
> > > > > Lajoie
> > >
> > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:54 PM
> > >
> > > > > *To:* Lynch, Don <dlynch AT bnl.gov <mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov>>;
> > > sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > >
> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hi Don,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     Thanks for the update!  I certainly appreciate that you want to
> > >
> > > > > keep the engineering meeting tight, but I'll look forward to poking
> > >
> > > > > through the slides.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > John
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > On 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, Lynch, Don wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     Hi John,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     We won't have any Engineering input for tomorrow's meeting, as
> > > > > we
> > >
> > > > >     are meeting with Walt Sondheim on MAPS parameters at the same
> > time.
> > > > >     We do have a BNL internal Calorimeter engineering meeting on
> > > > > Friday
> > >
> > > > >     to go over Anatoli's latest analyses, Rich's current light
> > >
> > > > >     collection design status and general engineering issues for
> > >
> > > > >     finalizing HCal mechanical design (steel, light collection,
> > > > > etc.,
> > >
> > > > >     inner and outer) and advancing the EMCal mechanical design.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     We are not putting this on bluejeans, as we want to keep the
> > >
> > > > >     engineering discussion tight, but we will post some slides on
> > > Indico.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     - Don Lynch
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     *From: *<sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
> > >
> > > > >     <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>> on behalf of
> > > > > John
> > >
> > > > >     Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu
> > > <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu%20%3cmailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>>>
> > >
> > > > >     *Date: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 3:11 PM
> > >
> > > > >     *To: *"sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > >
> > > > >     <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>"
> > > > > <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > >
> > > > >     <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>>
> > >
> > > > >     *Subject: *[Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     Dear HCAL'ers:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >         It's been a while, but we will resume our bi-weekly HCAL
> > >
> > > > >     meetings this coming Wednesday, Jan 18th, at 2:30PM BNL time.   The
> > >
> > > > >     agenda is evolving here at:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=2762
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     I'm hoping we can get an update on the test beam, and maybe
> > > > > some
> > >
> > > > >     additional contributions.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >     Regards,
> > >
> > > > >     John
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
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