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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- From: Edward Kistenev <kistenev AT bnl.gov>
- To: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: "sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:41:54 -0600
Just couple pictures from energy scan in stand alone HCal:
- total energy in HCal vs asymmetry in energies visible in HInner and HOuter. Blob on the left - hadrons which left very little of energy in HInner , blob on the right - electrons, line at the bottom - muons which are plenty in that beam;
- projection of a same on Y-axis. Fit made attempting to cut electron blob. Sigma ~4.5 GeV (below 100/sqrt(E). Muons deposit ~2.5 GeV in calorimeter in ths calibration.
Edward
On Jan 22, 2017, at 11:02 PM, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov> wrote:
Abhisek et al.,
We had trouble today with our network in FTBF today, but Martin resolved
it this afternoon and we are up-to-date in copying over.
Hopefully, we are updating the elog better now as well, but here is an
run index of data taken with the beam so far:
We're still getting things up to speed, but not a bad haul for the first
few days.
If someone points me to web space accessible to sphenix instead of just
phenix, we can put this up there.
On 1/22/17 1:09 PM, John Haggerty wrote:
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We had trouble today with our network in FTBF today, but Martin resolved
it this afternoon and we are up-to-date in copying over.
Hopefully, we are updating the elog better now as well, but here is an
run index of data taken with the beam so far:
https://www.phenix.bnl.gov/WWW/sPHENIX/haggerty/t1044/2017a/
We're still getting things up to speed, but not a bad haul for the first
few days.
If someone points me to web space accessible to sphenix instead of just
phenix, we can put this up there.
On 1/22/17 1:09 PM, John Haggerty wrote:
Abhisek,
There's something funny about copying files to rcf... it looks to me
like we haven't gotten files over there since yesterday, we killed off
all rsync's and we're trying to figure out what's going on.
On 1/22/17 11:16 AM, Abhisek Sen wrote:Hi Edward,
Please be more explicit in the elog about the details on the runs
taken. I started the transfer to RCF. I will have a look once it transfer.
Cheers,
Abhisek
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:32 AM Edward Kistenev <kistenev AT bnl.gov
<mailto:kistenev AT bnl.gov>> wrote:
Jin, Sunday is HCAL standalone day. We are planning to take ~500k
events at each of 4 or 5 energies (30/16/8/4 and maybe 2 GeV/c) -
enough data to have ~2k events for every hodoscope crossing. If you
have comments, suggestions - welcomed. Would be great to get some
insight from this data fast.
The first run (30GeV/c mostly negative pions) is 3285.
Edward
On Jan 20, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Huang, Jin <jhuang AT bnl.gov
<mailto:jhuang AT bnl.gov>> wrote:
Hi, Martin and all
Thanks! This flag is very convenient. This switch is incorporated
into a not-yet-merged prototype3 production code:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a
Now I will also appreciate if someone could point to me the new HBD
channel map for high-eta EMCal, which will put here:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a#diff-4943c7156628a48058c793384d2269b3
Cheers,
Jin
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Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
All, especially Jin,
I started to summarize the current PRDF structure changes as2017.that the new
I added a chapter "What is new in the data structures in 2017" in
https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#What
_is_new_in_the_data_structures_in_2017
Basically we are reading more scalers in packet 910/911, and added one
camera packet 944 (not to let a cam go to waste).
begin-run packet 905 (just its presence, not content) indicates(high-eta) emcal is connected. Example code on the Wiki.format too).
Best,
Martin
On 1/20/17 16:20, Huang, Jin wrote:Hi, John and Martin
Thanks for the lots of work initiating the test. 8-GeV scan sounds
like a good plan. And I think Martin's marker packet in PRDF will be
very useful for analysis too (good to have a copy in numericalstill fitI didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl item in thewiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable within oneBCO."
Hmm. I guess I should say move the PbGL signal earlier in the sample
train. In the past run 2016, the PbGL was recorded with peak around
sample 15-21. Almost for all events, the tail of ADC spectrum just
fall off the cliff beyond max sample of 24. Although one canproduction andfor the max, this prevented us to perform an analysis of 1100V to
1200V comparison by just integrate the ADC count (although signal
shape could change between two HV settings, presumably the ADC
integral remain the same.). Example 2016 data shown below.
Therefore, the request I meant is to move the PbGL trigger to come
100-150ns later, so we could sample the whole curve. Wiki updated.To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run thethat welook atit--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runsproductiondeemworth analyzing.
A wiki run list will be useful. Just chat with Chris, that we will
setup a new code base for prototype-3 analysis and decouple it with
prototype-2. A channel map will be useful in setting up the PRDF
unpacker. Most other infrastructure should be similar. When<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>is setup, I also need to work on the analysis tutorial ...
Cheers
Jin
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<mailto:sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>want inSubject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish listJin and Abhisek,Thanks for putting this together, after last week's beamline scare Ithoughtmaybe we better have a plan that would get us some of what weresolutions forshort order in case the septa failed completely.Looking over the list and thinking what we need to get done thisweekend toconfirm that we have everything connected and working to the best of
ourknowledge, I think we should spend most of our time this weekend at-8 GeV and take data at- sweet spot of EMCAL3- PbGl- HCAL only- sweet spot of EMCAL2in that order, which will debug/verify the hodoscope, the Cerenkovcounters,our own detectors, and give us some experience with the wire chamber
data,and would let us exercise new analysis necessary for theEMCAL3 (the channel map is new). It seems to me that ideally, we
couldthen produce, albeit with unit calibration constants,lastthe twoEMCAL's and the HCAL alone which could be directly compared withthis,year.In looking at what we've installed and done, I think it would better
thantrying to start with a big calibration scan, before we have fullyestablishedthat everything is works and we can analyze it as we did at the endthe last
ofbeam test, and we'll be lucky to get through this in a weekend.
Also, itdoesn't require a lot of beam development, and since the beam has
been offfor so long, there may be startup hiccups when we ask for changedconditions. -8 GeV seems like a good way to start for that reason,
andbecause we have a lot of data from last time there. If we takeclockhave timeto study it, and are ready to go on, I think the next thing would bean energyscan in the PbGl. I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGlin the
itemwiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable within oneBCO." As far as I know, there is no way to synchronize the ADCon thewithbeam events, and I hope that nothing we did in the past reliedguesspeakbeing in any particular sample.Also, we will be sharing time for the next few days with T-1068,
which Ibelieve is development of an SVX4-based Si telescope by groups from
KEKand Osaka for tests of ATLAS pixel and strip detectors, I wouldthemthey'llwant 120 GeV protons, and if we wanted to run parasitically withtake(notsure we have the person-power to do that), we could in principlelow mass.MIPcalibration data with them in the beam, they should be prettyproduction andTo make this data widely useful, we'll need to run thethat welook atit--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runswith it.deemworth analysing. We'll have to exercise some care in changing
EMCAL's,since the geometry and channel map are different, but the data will
lookexactly the same unless we do something to identify it. We couldchange thepacket id, I suppose, but that would take the HCAL and hodoscopefor twoAlso, we have to make some changes to the database to accounttest.emcal's and changes to the hcal controller.On 1/18/17 3:51 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:Hi, EveryoneIn the HCal meeting today, John Haggerty asked Abhisek and I to
comeup with a wish list for key measurements for the on-going beam<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMCPlease find a draft EMCal data wish list at this link:<https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
Cal_Standalone_Data><https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMal_Standalone_Data
Cal_Standalone_Data>.Seven data set was rated high, mid and low. Welcomed to givesuggestions or edit the list on wiki.Cheers,Jin______________________________Jin HUANG, Ph. D.Associate PhysicistBrookhaven National LaboratoryPhysics Department, Bldg 510 CUpton, NY 11973-5000Office: 631-344-5898 <tel:(631)%20344-5898>Cell: 757-604-9946 <tel:(757)%20604-9946>______________________________*From:*sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>] *On Behalf Of *John[mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov<mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov <mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov>>>;Lajoie*Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:54 PM*To:* Lynch, Don <dlynch AT bnl.gov <mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov><mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
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<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>><mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>time.*Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meetingHi Don,Thanks for the update! I certainly appreciate that you want tokeep the engineering meeting tight, but I'll look forward to pokingthrough the slides.JohnOn 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, Lynch, Don wrote:Hi John,We won't have any Engineering input for tomorrow's meeting, as
weare meeting with Walt Sondheim on MAPS parameters at the sameWe do have a BNL internal Calorimeter engineering meeting on
Fridayto go over Anatoli's latest analyses, Rich's current lightcollection design status and general engineering issues forfinalizing HCal mechanical design (steel, light collection,
etc.,inner and outer) and advancing the EMCal mechanical design.We are not putting this on bluejeans, as we want to keep theIndico.engineering discussion tight, but we will post some slides on- Don Lynch*From: *<sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>>> on behalf of<mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov<mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>JohnLajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu><mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>%20%3cmailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu<mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
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- Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list, Martin Purschke, 01/20/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
Abhisek Sen, 01/22/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list, Martin Purschke, 01/22/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list,
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