sPHENIX EMCal discussion

[Abhisek Sen <sen.abhisek AT gmail.com>]

Hi Edward,

   Please be more explicit in the elog about the details on the runs taken. I started the transfer to RCF. I will have a look once it transfer.

Cheers,

Abhisek

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:32 AM Edward Kistenev <kistenev AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Jin, Sunday is HCAL standalone day. We are planning to take ~500k events at each of 4 or 5 energies (30/16/8/4 and maybe 2 GeV/c) - enough data to have ~2k events for every hodoscope crossing. If you have comments, suggestions - welcomed. Would be great to get some insight from this data fast.
The first run (30GeV/c mostly negative pions) is 3285.

                        Edward


On Jan 20, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Huang, Jin <jhuang AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Hi, Martin and all

Thanks! This flag is very convenient. This switch is incorporated into a not-yet-merged prototype3 production code:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a

Now I will also appreciate if someone could point to me the new HBD channel map for high-eta EMCal, which will put here:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a#diff-4943c7156628a48058c793384d2269b3

Cheers,

Jin

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
> bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Martin Purschke
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:37 PM
> To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
>
> All, especially Jin,
>
> I started to summarize the current PRDF structure changes as compared to
> 2017.
>
> I added a chapter "What is new in the data structures in 2017" in
> https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#What
> _is_new_in_the_data_structures_in_2017
>
> Basically we are reading more scalers in packet 910/911, and added one
> camera packet 944 (not to let a cam go to waste).
>
> begin-run packet 905 (just its presence, not content) indicates that the new
> (high-eta) emcal is connected. Example code on the Wiki.
>
> Best,
>       Martin
>
>
>
> On 1/20/17 16:20, Huang, Jin wrote:
>> Hi, John and Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the lots of work initiating the test. 8-GeV scan sounds
>> like a good plan. And I think Martin's marker packet in PRDF will be
>> very useful for analysis too (good to have a copy in numerical format too).
>>
>>
>>
>>> I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl item in the
>>
>>> wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
>> in one
>>
>>> BCO."
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm. I guess I should say move the PbGL signal earlier in the sample
>> train. In the past run 2016, the PbGL was recorded with peak around
>> sample 15-21. Almost for all events, the tail of ADC spectrum just
>> fall off the cliff beyond max sample of 24. Although one can still fit
>> for the max, this prevented us to perform an analysis of 1100V to
>> 1200V comparison by just integrate the ADC count (although signal
>> shape could change between two HV settings, presumably the ADC
>> integral remain the same.). Example 2016 data shown below.
>>
>>
>>
>> Therefore, the request I meant is to move the PbGL trigger to come
>> 100-150ns later, so we could sample the whole curve. Wiki updated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
>> look at
>>
>>> it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
>>> deem
>>
>>> worth analyzing.
>>
>>
>>
>> A wiki run list will be useful. Just chat with Chris, that we will
>> setup a new code base for prototype-3 analysis and decouple it with
>> prototype-2. A channel map will be useful in setting up the PRDF
>> unpacker. Most other infrastructure should be similar. When production
>> is setup, I also need to work on the analysis tutorial ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Jin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
>>
>>
>>
>> Associate Physicist
>>
>> Brookhaven National Laboratory
>>
>> Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
>>
>> Upton, NY 11973-5000
>>
>>
>>
>> Office: 631-344-5898
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
>>
>>> bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of John Haggerty
>>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:18 AM
>>
>>> To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov; sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Jin and Abhisek,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Thanks for putting this together, after last week's beamline scare I
>> thought
>>
>>> maybe we better have a plan that would get us some of what we want in
>>
>>> short order in case the septa failed completely.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Looking over the list and thinking what we need to get done this
>> weekend to
>>
>>> confirm that we have everything connected and working to the best of
>>> our
>>
>>> knowledge, I think we should spend most of our time this weekend at
>>
>>> -8 GeV and take data at
>>
>>>
>>
>>> - sweet spot of EMCAL3
>>
>>> - PbGl
>>
>>> - HCAL only
>>
>>> - sweet spot of EMCAL2
>>
>>>
>>
>>> in that order, which will debug/verify the hodoscope, the Cerenkov
>> counters,
>>
>>> our own detectors, and give us some experience with the wire chamber
>>> data,
>>
>>> and would let us exercise new analysis necessary for the
>>
>>> EMCAL3 (the channel map is new).  It seems to me that ideally, we
>>> could
>>
>>> then produce, albeit with unit calibration constants, resolutions for
>> the two
>>
>>> EMCAL's and the HCAL alone which could be directly compared with last
>> year.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> In looking at what we've installed and done, I think it would better
>>> than
>>
>>> trying to start with a big calibration scan, before we have fully
>> established
>>
>>> that everything is works and we can analyze it as we did at the end
>>> of
>> the last
>>
>>> beam test, and we'll be lucky to get through this in a weekend.
>>> Also, it
>>
>>> doesn't require a lot of beam development, and since the beam has
>>> been off
>>
>>> for so long, there may be startup hiccups when we ask for changed
>>
>>> conditions.  -8 GeV seems like a good way to start for that reason,
>>> and
>>
>>> because we have a lot of data from last time there.  If we take this,
>> have time
>>
>>> to study it, and are ready to go on, I think the next thing would be
>> an energy
>>
>>> scan in the PbGl.  I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl
>>> item
>> in the
>>
>>> wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
>> in one
>>
>>> BCO."  As far as I know, there is no way to synchronize the ADC clock
>>> with
>>
>>> beam events, and I hope that nothing we did in the past relied on the
>>> peak
>>
>>> being in any particular sample.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Also, we will be sharing time for the next few days with T-1068,
>>> which I
>>
>>> believe is development of an SVX4-based Si telescope by groups from
>>> KEK
>>
>>> and Osaka for tests of ATLAS pixel and strip detectors, I would guess
>> they'll
>>
>>> want 120 GeV protons, and if we wanted to run parasitically with them
>>> (not
>>
>>> sure we have the person-power to do that), we could in principle take
>>> MIP
>>
>>> calibration data with them in the beam, they should be pretty low mass.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
>> look at
>>
>>> it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
>>> deem
>>
>>> worth analysing.  We'll have to exercise some care in changing
>>> EMCAL's,
>>
>>> since the geometry and channel map are different, but the data will
>>> look
>>
>>> exactly the same unless we do something to identify it.  We could
>> change the
>>
>>> packet id, I suppose, but that would take the HCAL and hodoscope with it.
>>
>>> Also, we have to make some changes to the database to account for two
>>
>>> emcal's and changes to the hcal controller.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On 1/18/17 3:51 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi, Everyone
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> In the HCal meeting today, John Haggerty asked Abhisek and I to
>>>> come
>>
>>>> up with a wish list for key measurements for the on-going beam test.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Please find a draft EMCal data wish list at this link:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>
> https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMC
>>
> <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> C
>> al_Standalone_Data>
>>
>>> al_Standalone_Data
> <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> Cal_Standalone_Data>.
>>
>>>> Seven data set was rated high, mid and low. Welcomed to give
>>
>>>> suggestions or edit the list on wiki.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Jin
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> ______________________________
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Associate Physicist
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Brookhaven National Laboratory
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Upton, NY 11973-5000
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Office: 631-344-5898
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Cell:   757-604-9946
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> ______________________________
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>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> *From:*sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
>>
>>>> [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] *On Behalf Of *John
>>
>>>> Lajoie
>>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:54 PM
>>
>>>> *To:* Lynch, Don <dlynch AT bnl.gov <mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov>>;
>> sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Hi Don,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    Thanks for the update!  I certainly appreciate that you want to
>>
>>>> keep the engineering meeting tight, but I'll look forward to poking
>>
>>>> through the slides.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> John
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> On 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, Lynch, Don wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    Hi John,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    We won't have any Engineering input for tomorrow's meeting, as
>>>> we
>>
>>>>    are meeting with Walt Sondheim on MAPS parameters at the same
> time.
>>
>>>>    We do have a BNL internal Calorimeter engineering meeting on
>>>> Friday
>>
>>>>    to go over Anatoli's latest analyses, Rich's current light
>>
>>>>    collection design status and general engineering issues for
>>
>>>>    finalizing HCal mechanical design (steel, light collection,
>>>> etc.,
>>
>>>>    inner and outer) and advancing the EMCal mechanical design.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    We are not putting this on bluejeans, as we want to keep the
>>
>>>>    engineering discussion tight, but we will post some slides on
>> Indico.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    - Don Lynch
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    *From: *<sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
>>
>>>>    <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>> on behalf of
>>>> John
>>
>>>>    Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu
>> <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu%20%3cmailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>>>
>>
>>>>    *Date: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 3:11 PM
>>
>>>>    *To: *"sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>
>>>>    <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>"
>>>> <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>
>>>>    <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>>
>>
>>>>    *Subject: *[Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    Dear HCAL'ers:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>        It's been a while, but we will resume our bi-weekly HCAL
>>
>>>>    meetings this coming Wednesday, Jan 18th, at 2:30PM BNL time.   The
>>
>>>>    agenda is evolving here at:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=2762
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    I'm hoping we can get an update on the test beam, and maybe
>>>> some
>>
>>>>    additional contributions.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    Regards,
>>
>>>>    John
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>    --
>>
>>>>
>>
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>>
>>>>
>>
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>>
>>>>
>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
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