STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

[Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>]

Dear Chunjian,
  Thanks for incorporating my comments. Please note that the quantity 
you are showing on slide#8 (lower right plot) is the ratio of <(\delta 
p_T)^3>/<p_T>^3 -- this quantity is not Skewness.

In terms of your notations "Skewness" will be something like: "<(\delta 
p_T)^3>/<(\delta p_T)^2>^3/2. Since you're not plotting that so we 
should not be calling it Skewness.

I think we should refer the quantity <(\delta p_T)^3>/<p_T>^3 as "Scaled 
third order moment" or "Normalized third order moment".

On conclusion slide we can say:
"enhancement in variance and skewness ratios" --> "enhancement in 
variance and third order fluctuation ratios"

Best,
Prithwish


On 2022-10-24 09:50, ChunJian Zhang wrote:
> Dear Prithwish,
>
> Thank you for the helpful comments. With including all the
> suggestions, please find the new version at
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/DNP-2022/Measurement-nuclear-deformation-high-energy-isobaric-96Ru96Ru-and-96Zr96Zr--0
>
>
> Please find the comments included and addressed as follows:
>
> > Side#3:
> > Define "0\nu\beta\beta" somewhere on this slide.
> > "Rarely experimental measurements" --> "Few experimental
> > measurements" or "Rarely explored in experiment”
>  Changed
>
> > Slide#4: "based on N_{ch}^{offline} with" --> "based on uncorrected
> > tracks (N_{ch}^{offline}) in”
>  Changed
>
> > Slide#6: Some texts are overlapping, the page number is hidden.
>  Changed
>
> > Miner & optional comment: the references are not written in
> > conventional  formats (like Zhang and Jia, PRL 128, 022301 (2022)).
>  Changed
>
> > "cancelation" --> "cancellation"
>  Changed
>
> > It is not clear what you mean by "cancellation expected in
> > non-central collisions". What gets cancelled with what? Also, this
> > is approximately true, right ? Then maybe say "approximate
> > cancellation”
>  Added “approximate". The effect from Beta_3 canceled the v2 ratios.
>
>
> > The 4th bullet is a bit confusing, right? What do you mean by this?
> > It depends on how the size is defined. Larger neutron skin means
> > large size, so there's an apparent contradiction between the 3rd and
> > the 4th bullets.
>   added "R0"
>
> > Slide#7:
> > "non-linear" --> "Nonlinear" in title and everywhere
>  Changed
>
> > "reflect nuclear structure" --> "reflects difference in nuclear
> > structure”
>  Changed
>
> > It's impossible to see what you're plotting on the two right
> > figures. At least write in bigger fonts that you're plotting "Mean
> > ratio" and "Third moment ratio”
>  Add large labels
>
> > Slide#8: "Study nuclear structure" --> "Study of nuclear structure"
> > "increase in central" --> "increase in central collisions"
>  Changed
>
> > It is very difficult to read what is plotted on the
>  Add large labels
>
> > Slide#9: Add "More investigation using STAR data is underway”
>  Added
>
> > It is not clear what your conclusion is from the data-model
> > comparison on the right. Can you please add a short sentence.
>  Add one more sentence.
>
> > Slide#10: "identical for Ru and Zr in final state as expected" -->
> > "consistent between Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr as expected"
> > While talking do mention that "as is it driven by final state
> > effects”
>  Changed and will follow your nice suggestions.
>
> > "variance and skewness" --> You didn't show skewness, maybe say
> > "variance and third order moment”
>  We showed the skewness  in the right lower plot on slide 8th
>
> > Add "more studies underway" in the last bullet.
>
> Added
>
> Best regards
> Chunjian
>
> > On Oct 23, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Prithwish Tribedy via Star-fcv-l
> > <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> >
> > Dear ChunJian,
> > Very nice slides. Here are my comments. With these included, I sign
> > off.
> >
> > General comment: some of the fonts you have used are too small.
> >
> > Side#3:
> > Define "0\nu\beta\beta" somewhere on this slide.
> > "Rarely experimental measurements" --> "Few experimental
> > measurements" or "Rarely explored in experiment"
> >
> > Slide#4: "based on N_{ch}^{offline} with" --> "based on uncorrected
> > tracks (N_{ch}^{offline}) in"
> >
> > Slide#6: Some texts are overlapping, the page number is hidden.
> >
> > Minor & optional comment: the references are not written in
> > conventional  formats (like Zhang and Jia, PRL 128, 022301 (2022)).
> >
> > "cancelation" --> "cancellation"
> >
> > It is not clear what you mean by "cancellation expected in
> > non-central collisions". What gets cancelled with what? Also, this
> > is approximately true, right ? Then maybe say "approximate
> > cancellation"
> >
> > The 4th bullet is a bit confusing, right? What do you mean by this?
> > It depends on how the size is defined. Larger neutron skin means
> > large size, so there's an apparent contradiction between the 3rd and
> > the 4th bullets.
> >
> > Slide#7:
> > "non-linear" --> "Nonlinear" in title and everywhere
> > "reflect nuclear structure" --> "reflects difference in nuclear
> > structure"
> > It's impossible to see what you're plotting on the two right
> > figures. At least write in bigger fonts that you're plotting "Mean
> > ratio" and "Third moment ratio"
> >
> > Slide#8: "Study nuclear structure" --> "Study of nuclear structure"
> > "increase in central" --> "increase in central collisions"
> >
> > It is very difficult to read what is plotted on the
> >
> > Slide#9: Add "More investigation using STAR data is underway"
> >
> > It is not clear what your conclusion is from the data-model
> > comparison on the right. Can you please add a short sentence.
> >
> > Slide#10: "identical for Ru and Zr in final state as expected" -->
> > "consistent between Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr as expected"
> > While talking do mention that "as is it driven by final state
> > effects"
> >
> > "variance and skewness" --> You didn't show skewness, maybe say
> > "variance and third order moment"
> >
> > Add "more studies underway" in the last bullet.
> >
> > Best,
> > Pritwish
> >
> > On 2022-10-14 15:41, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l wrote:
> >
> > > Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
> > > ChunJian Zhang (chun-jian.zhang AT stonybrook.edu) has submitted a
> > > material for
> > > a review, please have a look:
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