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- From: videbaek <videbaek AT bnl.gov>
- To: Zhenyu Ye <yezhenyu2003 AT gmail.com>
- Cc: Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:55:22 -0400
Hi Yi,
I concur with Zhenyu's comments. I would suggest changing the 350_-100 -> < 500 microns.
slide 7
well defined -> well defined and confirmed.
Have you spelled out somewhere what iTDC means?
slide 19
- > say measurements are on hybrid; the the red not on FST-005 makes sense
slide 20
Will improve -> have improved
slide 27
Thanks for adding this
--- could you add #hours and resource (i.e person) doing the task
Is there any allowance for weekends?
Let's also revisit my spreadsheet.
We should add a summary slide - to stress that
--production plan and QA procedures well defined
-- apart from final adjustments discussed ( precession pins, extra block ) ready to start production
-- ...
On 2020-07-29 10:26, Zhenyu Ye wrote:
Hi Yi
Please find some comments below:
You have already lots of slides. But I think you need the following
Need to list the materials used in the assembly, including the glues,
thermal grease, and assert whether they meet the ES&H requirements and
radiation hardness.
Need to add slide on thermal simulation.
Need to add one slide on the overall schedule with dates
Slide 2
Inner Signal Cable: BNL -> BNL/IU
Silicon sensor: UIC/SDU/NCKU -> UIC/BNL
Slide 3
Do you want to have a slide after this slide to describe how the main
structure is produced using the injection mold method?
It seems odd to me that you have a slide on how the cooling tube is
made (less of a problem) but no slide on the main structure (the main
source of challenges).
Slide 4
Compared to the previous version, the statement "Plating with Cadmium
(Chroming) to prevent electrical corrosion” is removed. I would not do
it just to avoid question from the committee, but try to get the ES&H
requirements checked before the review.
Slide 6
Goal: quickly produced prototypes for sensor testing -> I am not aware
that this was the goal. I thought the goal was always to produce good
quality prototype modules.
Also do you want to mention that this assembly was done at AIDC?
Slide 7
to assembly -> to assemble
Slide 8, 31, 34
Acceptance:~350±150μm (not a critical point here)
-> This is a bit confusing. The range includes a lower limit of 200
microns. We certainly would not reject any parts that have smaller
variation in surface flatness.
Looking at Slide 31 and 34, which parts are used to assemble FST03, 04 and 05?
I am also not sure it is clear how to interpret "not a critical point here”.
Slide 27
How long does each step take? Is there enough manpower and machine
time to cover all the tasks?
Best,
Zhenyu
On Jul 29, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Yi Yang <yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw> wrote:
Hi Flemming and all,
I have updated my slides on the same page: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/event/2020/07/27/star-forward-silicon-tracker-meeting/module-mechanical-structure
Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.
Cheers,
Yi
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:53 AM videbaek <videbaek AT bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi
Here are some comments to what should be in the talk: Rahul, Sun, Maowu
the comments are also in word document
best
Flemming
Assembly UIC/FNAL
There has to be a slide on the Q&A done during production as we talk
about on Monday
// slide 11
Test to be performed –
Amount on time –
Tracking of outcome (how recorded)
Check of temperature of APV chips with infrared sensor/camera. With
cooled water
Maybe done at UIC or at BNL -TDB
Mentioned that this will be repeated when they arrive/assembled in at
BNL
Need a slide that details just in words the step for assembly
You can keep the summary,
But on slide before take the assembly tasks – put into a 3 column table
with col 2 == time
(days () , -- also is there no steps for curing time and column 3 with
institution/man power
Repeat the number of assemblies to make; what can be done in parallel
This is important information to evaluate the 3 months
--
Add an ESH slide describing the additional materials used in assembly
(like glue, epoxy for encapsulation)
Add statement that you follow UIC guidelines for working safely in the
lab.
Hybrid & T-boards
Slide 5 ; reformulate the waiting for .. as we discussed.
I assume we agreed we would not change mechanics for the T-board, but
move the capacitor on the board. Add a week for that task, (design +
signoff by group)
You got my estimate for connectors-
I suggest the make production slide into two
One for hybrid and one for T-board – you might indicator vendor –
Based on experience with prototype.
Give the quantities being made
One slide with ES&H
Materials proper (is there a standard that is being followed
--- non flammable PCB ?
Work at lab at SDU minimal. Follows University work rules.
Integration
Rahul
Please add a slide on ES&H
That we follow BNL rules
There will be safety review (before actual production?)
Certainly, one before installation
Any specific concern that you pay attention to on this
Also if you can add a slide where you discuss your response to Charge
questions?
(Those relevant like installation schedule)
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
videbaek, 07/30/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
Ye, Zhenyu, 07/30/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
Gerard Visser, 07/30/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] comments to some of the talks,
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