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[Gabe Dale-Gau <gdaleg2 AT uic.edu>]

Hi Sooraj,

Ah, I see what you mean now. I initially misunderstood this comment. I have updated the slides for version 6: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/HardProbes2024_BaryonToMesonInJet_v6.pdf

The only difference between v6 and v5 is that I added a label stating "(uncorrected)" to the plots on slides 13 & 15.

Thanks,

Gabe

On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 3:44 PM Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov> wrote:

Hi Gabe,

   Thanks for the updated version and the responses. I am good with them 

//Changed to dn_{track} for clarity here. I only use the “raw” terminology with respect to jet pT, as a clarification that we do not do jet energy scale corrections, so I hesistate to use “raw” at the track-level.//

---- But there should be clear labelling that these are uncorrected distributions. Could label as uncorrected 

Best,

Sooraj

On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 6:14 PM Gabe Dale-Gau <gdaleg2 AT uic.edu> wrote:

Hi Sooraj,

Thank you for your comments. I have implemented the requested changes in version 5 of my slides: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/HardProbes2024_BaryonToMesonInJet_v5.pdf

Please find detailed responses to your comments below.

Sincerely,

Gabe

S2: Do you want to show the lower bullets also in the order as you show the slides?

 

This is a good point. I have updated the slides so that the bullet points appear as I talk about them

 

S5: You dont answer how QGP hadronizes from your study, right?                  

 

I had included this more as a guiding broader question that this study fits into. You are correct that I do not directly answer it in the talk, so I have removed this point

 

S9: Could indicated the PID purities here 

 

We do not perform track-by-track PID, but rather an ensemble average measurement. So the concept of “purity” in PID doesn’t necessarily apply here. We essentially have 100% purity for all particle species. The only exception would be our ToF cut for protons, but we only use this cut at low pT, where we can ensure that the proton yield has near 100% purity.

 

S12: y-axis label should say raw, dn --> dn_{track}?

 

Changed to dn_{track} for clarity here. I only use the “raw” terminology with respect to jet pT, as a clarification that we do not do jet energy scale corrections, so I hesistate to use “raw” at the track-level.

 

S12: What are the vertical arrows on the right for?

 

These are a cartoon-style legend I use to discuss the constituent pT minimum. I will mention this verbally in the talk. Essentially a scaled-up version of the arrow cartoon I use on the left side of the slide when describing embedding. This cartoon is more useful when I compare pTconst > 3 and ptConst > 2, as I can move the horizontal line to indicate the minimum. The three arrows are meant to represent tracks in each of the three pT bins I report on the slide. This is useful when discussing that the correlated background is at it’s maximum directly above the pTconst minimum.

 

S14: Are the combinatorial and matched distributions after scaling to the Au+Au spectra?

 

Yes. I considered showing these distributions before and after scaling, but decided to cut this step from the talk in the interest of time. The talk is already pushing the time limit as is.

 

S15,16: Why not add a bullet comparing inclusive and in-jet ratios?

 

I use the first bullet point “strong preference for pi over p production” to discuss this comparison in the talk. I also have a more explicit bullet point on my summary slide to return to the comparison between in-jet and inclusive hadron measurements at the end of the talk.

 

S23: last bullet text is overlapping

 

Good catch. Deteled the footer on this slide to resolve this issue.

 

S28: y-axis should be labelled raw

 

Added this label for all instances of the spectra template fit

On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 4:35 AM Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov> wrote:

Hi Gabe,

    Your slides are well prepared. In the interest of time, please find some comments from me here

S2: Do you want to show the lower bullets also in the order as you show the slides?

S5: You dont answer how QGP hadronizes from your study, right?

S9: Could indicated the PID purities here 

S12: y-axis label should say raw, dn --> dn_{track}?

S12: What are the vertical arrows on the right for?

S14: Are the combinatorial and matched distributions after scaling to the Au+Au spectra?

S15,16: Why not add a bullet comparing inclusive and in-jet ratios?

S23: last bullet text is overlapping

S28: y-axis should be labelled raw

Best,

Sooraj

On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 4:10 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

Hello Gabe,

Thank you for working on some comments and improving your slides.
I have one suggestion on Slide#17,19 figure, where you compare R=0.2 and
0.3, 0.4 results for pp.
You are now using blue band for R=0.2 where you used data points with
box in slide15.

Can you please make plotting style the same without changing it to band?
You can make it different colour and marker style for R=0.2, 0.3, and
0.4 while comparing. Otherwise, it looks like you can comparing some
theory calculation just at a glance.

I am going to push it to startalk. But in the mean time please make your
plots consistent.


Best
Nihar

On 2024-09-20 04:00, Gabe Dale-Gau wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Just wanted to make you aware that I have posted one more version of
> my slides to the talk page.
> Version 4:
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/HardProbes2024_BaryonToMesonInJet_v4.pdf
>
> This version includes a few updates I made today after a practice talk
> with my local group. The updates are as follows:
>
> - Slides 10-12: updated phrasing to improve clarity on "the challenge"
> that is addressed by pseudo-embedding.
> - Slides 17 & 19: Added a blue band representing my p+p R = 0.2 result
> to compare against p+p R = 0.3 and p+p R = 0.4. This strengthens my
> statement: "No modification observed with increase in Jet R".
> - All Results Slides: Corrected a typo in the legend for the p+p
> inclusive hadron measurement reference
> - Slide 21: Re-worked bullet points in summary for better logical
> flow.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gabe
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 12:38 PM Gabe Dale-Gau <gdaleg2 AT uic.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yi,
>>
>> Thank you for the follow-up comments. I have included the changes in
>> v3 of my slides:
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/HardProbes2024_BaryonToMesonInJet_v3.pdf
>> Please find detailed responses below.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> - Title page: there is an "official" DOE logo for the talk, you can
>> take a look at others. (Need to add "Supported in part by")
>>
>> Looked at Diptanil’s presentation for reference. Changed the logo
>> to the US department of energy office of science, and added
>> “supported in part by”
>>
>> - p21: I would suggest to make the plots smaller and bullets larger
>> in the summary page, but it is completely up to you.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 1:27 AM Yi Yang
>> <yiyang429 AT gate.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gabe,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for taking my suggestions into account and the updated
>> version. I have two minor comment/suggestion for your consideration.
>> - Title page: there is an "official" DOE logo for the talk, you can
>> take a look at others. (Need to add "Supported in part by")
>> - p21: I would suggest to make the plots smaller and bullets larger
>> in the summary page, but it is completely up to you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Yi Yang, Research Fellow
>> Institute of Physics, Academia Sinica
>> E-Mail: yiyang429 AT gate.sinica.edu.tw
>> Tel: +886-2-2789-6709
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>> -----Original message-----
>> From:Gabe Dale-Gau<gdaleg2 AT uic.edu>
>> To:star-hp-l<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:18:32
>> Subject: Re: [[Star-hp-l] ] STAR presentation by Gabriel Dale-Gau
>> for HP2024 submitted for review
>> Hi Yi,
>>
>> Thank you for your comments on my presentation.
>> I have implemented all suggested changes in v2 of my slides:
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/HardProbes2024_BaryonToMesonInJet_v2.pdf
>> [1]
>> Please find detailed responses below.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> - p1: Please add the DOE logo.
>>
>> Done
>>
>> - p9: Right plot, in the legend, the style looks the same for
>> Proton and Kaon
>>
>> Fixed.
>>
>> - p10: Should it call "Problem"? Or "Challenge"?
>>
>> I like this update. Changed to “The Challenge”. When I first
>> wrote these slides I was thinking of “Problem” as in “math
>> problem” or “problem set”, but I see now that the word could
>> be read as carrying a negative connotation.
>>
>> - p15, 16: Since you won't have new preliminary for 3 GeV results,
>> these two pages should remove?
>>
>> I have removed them from the talk
>>
>> - p12: remove pT > 3.0 GeV  (also on p7)
>>
>> I removed the mention of pTconst > 3 on slide 7, but I can find no
>> mention of it on slide 12
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 1:23 AM Yi Yang
>> <yiyang429 AT gate.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
>> Hi Gabe,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the nice slides. I have some minor comments for
>> your consideration.
>> - p1: Please add the DOE logo.
>> - p9: Right plot, in the legend, the style looks the same for
>> Proton and Kaon
>> - p10: Should it call "Problem"? Or "Challenge"?
>> - p15, 16: Since you won't have new preliminary for 3 GeV results,
>> these two pages should remove?
>> - p12: remove pT > 3.0 GeV  (also on p7)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Yi Yang, Research Fellow
>> Institute of Physics, Academia Sinica
>> E-Mail: yiyang429 AT gate.sinica.edu.tw
>> Tel: +886-2-2789-6709
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
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Sooraj Radhakrishnan

Research Scientist,

Department of Physics

Kent State University

Kent, OH 44242

Physicist Postdoctoral Affiliate

Nuclear Science Division
Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
MS70R0319, One Cyclotron Road

Berkeley, CA 94720

Ph: 510-495-2473

Email: skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov

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Sooraj Radhakrishnan

Research Scientist,

Department of Physics

Kent State University

Kent, OH 44242

Physicist Postdoctoral Affiliate

Nuclear Science Division
Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
MS70R0319, One Cyclotron Road

Berkeley, CA 94720

Ph: 510-495-2473

Email: skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov