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[John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

You should be aware that these numbers seem quite inconsistent across 
L2s, in particular since some show L2 and L3 management FTEs while 
others do not.

                John

On 8/17/21 6:58 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:
> Hi All,
> I made a backup slide for my talk tomorrow regarding scientific (uncosted) labor (based 
> on the July IPD file for time phased NSF FTE but filtering on "...U_COST_..." 
> resources. The first tab shows it for L2 with a plot, and the second tab shows the 
> detail for each WBS L3 with a list of the specific uncosted resources. Maybe this is 
> helpful should the issue come up tomorrow - not that I expect it to, but you never know.
> Cheers, Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 2:51 PM
> To: Fisher, Wade <fisherw AT msu.edu>; Tim Andeen <timothy.robert.andeen AT cern.ch>; Schwienhorst, 
> Reinhard <schwier AT msu.edu>; Novakova, Penka N <penka AT bnl.gov>; Michael Tuts 
> <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> Subject: Re: Some notes from CAM interviews - day 1
>
>
> Hi,
>
> So where this is particularly relevant from an EVMS perspective is that since we don't 
> pay for scientific labor, it doesn't enter any of the standard EVMS metrics (it has $0 
> BCWS, BCWP and ACWP).  The usual follow-up question is "how do you measure 
> progress then"?  And our answer is that almost every task with uncosted labor has 
> at least as much costed labor.
>
> Best,
>
> Gustaaf
>
> On 8/17/21 2:23 PM, Fisher, Wade wrote:
> > Hi Gustaaf,
> >
> > Yes, Carrie also sent a correction on the uncosted labor.  Somehow I
> > had gotten it into my mind that the question was about costed
> > scientific labor and couldn't turn my brain around after that.  Thanks
> > for trying to get me on the right path, though!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Wade
> >
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> > *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2021 2:14 PM
> > *To:* Fisher, Wade <fisherw AT msu.edu>; Tim Andeen
> > <timothy.robert.andeen AT cern.ch>; Schwienhorst, Reinhard
> > <schwier AT msu.edu>; Novakova, Penka N <penka AT bnl.gov>; Michael Tuts
> > <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> > *Subject:* Some notes from CAM interviews - day 1
> >
> > Hello Wade,
> >
> > Well done.  A few small mistakes listed below.  Two are also relevant
> > for Tim and Reinhard, so cc'd.
> >
> > -Yes, there is uncosted labor in the 6.8.3 RLS.  Quite a bit.
> >
> > -Schedule variance and cost variance are independent!  A schedule
> > variance does not create a cost variance and vice-versa: a schedule
> > variance refers to work not done (or done ahead of time), whereas a
> > cost variance measures the difference in planned vs actual cost for
> > *work done only*.
> >
> > -The one year delay in the schedule that was already implemented in
> > the need-by dates is not COVID-related.  It's due to the "original LS2"
> > delay.  There is likely to be another delay, that one due to covid.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gustaaf
>
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> Als sie mich holten,
> gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
>
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