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  • From: Tim Andeen <timothy.robert.andeen AT cern.ch>
  • To: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
  • Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] LAr HL-LHC weekly mtg
  • Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:11:49 +0100

Hi John, 

Thanks for the comments, they all make sense. I'm updating the slides this evening, will let you know when I'm done. I'll be working late here. Two quick replies: 
1) I have your PCB quotes, but added the big stuff first. Will add this to the slides. 
2) VL+ cost increase: adding a slide on this. Basic issue: we lost the cheap ($30) 1tx1rx variant for ckl/ctrl link. Now have to use 4tx1rx ($150) for everything. 

best, Tim

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 6:43 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:

Hi all,

        I uploaded a draft of the slides for my
L3 talk; comments are welcome.  I now have to work
on preparing the agenda page.  I will look later at
Hao's draft slides, and everyone else let me know
if you upload an updated version.
        Regards,
                John

On 3/26/19 9:45 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>      I give below a few quick comments on the draft slides
> posted so far.  I have also posted a preliminary version
> of my draft L2 overview slides; please take a look and
> send me comments.  (the parts about BE firmware are still
> subject to change, as we work with Kj to understand what
> is going on there, but the rest should be stable.)
>
>          John
>
> Tim
> p. 15 - what does "Boundary conditions" mean in this context?
>
> pp. 1 - 18 - good for external review, but perhaps too long
> and detailed for internal scrubbing?  Consider shortening
>
> p. 24 - your signs are reversed.  Calculate new-old
>      - VL+ has increased by almost $0.5M ??!!
>      - I sent you costs for COLUTAv2 testboard
> and radiation testboard. Can't you use those to
> update the test jig costs?
>
> pp. 25-28 - include on slides previous costs, so
> direct comparison can be made
>
> p. 32 - "SMY"
>
>
> Andy
> p. 2 - edit to remove my email comments
>
> p. 5 - "US previously responsible for Carrier board...
> as well as passive RTM (similar to Phase 1)"
>
> p. 10 - stress that new h/w cost estimate and new
> quotes included in current Scrubbing Report
>
> p. 11 "better naming conventions" change to
> "adapt to ATLAS LAr naming conventions"
>
> - will need to add slides on solution to
> f/w cost issue, once resolved with Kj
>
> Hong
> p. 12 - LAUROC1 includes shaper from BNL, so stress
> a bit more the collab. and don't imply ALFE vs
> LAUROC is a "competition"
>
> p. 15 - "removing the future effort at U Penn"
>
> p. 17 - say current M&S comes from ATLAS BOE, and now
> you are ready to update with a new quote; also quantify
> difference in cost with new quote
>
> p. 19 - what about new quotes for test jigs, packaging?
>      - "removing risks" means "retiring" or
> "implementing", or ...?
>
>
>
> On 3/25/19 6:59 AM, John Parsons wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>      We will meet this week in our usual
>> timeslot of Tuesday at 1 pm NY time.
>> I have created an agenda page at
>> https://indico.bnl.gov/event/5917/.
>>      The man topic will be the status
>> of preparations for the Scrubbing at
>> BNL on Thurs.+Fri. this week.
>>      In addition to the usual materials
>> (RLS, BOE, ...) needed for each review,
>> each L3 should prepare some introductory
>> slides for the Scrubbing that cover
>> the following topics:
>>
>> - very brief overview of deliverables
>> and institutions involved (just to remind
>> people what the L3 is about)
>>
>> - brief technical status, emphasizing
>> progress since last review and upcoming
>> major steps (eg. milestones) over next
>> ~ 9 - 12 months
>>
>> - for NSF, description of boundary
>> between preMREFC and MFREC
>>
>> - summary of changes implemented to RLS
>> since previous review (discuss separately
>> those covered by an approved BCP and those
>> implemented in the current RLS but not
>> yet approved)
>>
>> - summary of changes still needed to
>> be implemented in RLS, if any.  (particularly
>> relevent for BE and Syst. Integ., but others
>> can point out here if they have realized
>> any changes still needed)
>>
>> - updates M&S costs, due to updating quotes
>>
>> - status of Risk register, and any changes
>> since last review either implemented or
>> needed
>>
>>      Start working right away on these
>> slides, which will be important to organize and
>> steer the discussion at the Scrubbing.  It is
>> particularly important to present coherently
>> the changes that still need to be made.  As
>> soon as you have even a partial draft of the
>> slides, post them to the indico page above,
>> so that we can iterate together and try achieve
>> some consistency across L3s.
>>
>>      Talk to you tomorrow.`
>>
>>      Regards,
>>              John
>>
>

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