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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time)
- From: Yi Yang <yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw>
- To: Gerard Visser <gvisser AT indiana.edu>
- Cc: Star-fst L <star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time)
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 20:50:36 +0800
Hi Gerard,
Not a program at all, it is good that we are on the same page. :-)
Cheers,
Yi
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Yi Yang, Associate Professor
Department of Physics
National Cheng Kung University
Tainan, 701 Taiwan
E-Mail: yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw
Tel: +886-6-2757575 ext.65237
Fax: +886-6-2747995
Group Web: http://phys.ncku.edu.tw/~yiyang
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Yi Yang, Associate Professor
Department of Physics
National Cheng Kung University
Tainan, 701 Taiwan
E-Mail: yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw
Tel: +886-6-2757575 ext.65237
Fax: +886-6-2747995
Group Web: http://phys.ncku.edu.tw/~yiyang
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 2:07 AM Gerard Visser <gvisser AT indiana.edu> wrote:
hi Yi,
I apologize I was confused on that first point, I didn't remember that there
were capacitors on both sides of the T-board, which is clear from a look at the
gerber files again. The plan for new version is then that all will be on the
side facing away from mechanical structure, OK. Sorry.
Gerard
On 8/11/2020 8:16 AM, Gerard Visser wrote:
> hi Yi,
> I am consfused by the pictures since don't the big tantalum capacitors on
> existing T-board face towards the mechanical structure? That was said to be the
> problem, which is now being fixed. But it doesn't look like a problem in your
> pictures???
> Were you able to actually plug in the outer hybrid? It looks like you did.
> Also as a small comment, will it really be good to use loose nuts for this
> fastening? We should as much as possible avoid the risk of dropping small parts,
> *especially* for an operation that might have to be performed with the FST in
> STAR out on the insertion rails, above and around the TPC and BEMC electronics
> boards which are all exposed there. I had though there would be press-nuts on
> one side or the other. Maybe this is impossible, at least now, but we should
> think about it.
> Sincerely,
>
> Gerard
>
>
> On 8/10/2020 11:33 PM, Yi Yang wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We tried to mount the T-Board onto MS and it seems to be okay.
>> But I think we should prepare some toolings for the installation.
>> Please check some photos in the following link:
>> T-Board_mounting.pdf
>> <https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/T-Board_mounting.pdf>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>>
>>
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>> Yi Yang, Associate Professor
>> Department of Physics
>> National Cheng Kung University
>> Tainan, 701 Taiwan
>> E-Mail: yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw <mailto:yiyang AT ncku.edu.tw>
>> Tel: +886-6-2757575 ext.65237
>> Fax: +886-6-2747995
>> Group Web: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://phys.ncku.edu.tw/*yiyang__;fg!!P4SdNyxKAPE!SAQPx9Ri_U0LMsI-kJryuTi7kmQ5x9z2cuwXyVQr_mwgVrxl6XH6qVUc5nh1_agdRO6tNDw$
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://phys.ncku.edu.tw/*yiyang__;fg!!P4SdNyxKAPE!RrBFMBGZeyx7A9EvAOYEtwDPoTzu6UesNtbcWnWCrk3Ntska06asz6ZScNS3e41dLZMtdaQ$>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:25 AM Ye, Zhenyu <yezhenyu AT uic.edu
>> <mailto:yezhenyu AT uic.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Minutes:
>>
>> 1. Flemming showed a draft of committee recommendations. He will have a
>> meeting with the committee this afternoon. Expect to have a final version
>> soon.
>>
>> 2. Silicon sensors
>> -> Zhenyu: requested for a new quote from Hamamatsu. Partial delivery of
>> Silicon sensors is not possible.
>>
>> 3. Use thermal camera with cooling applied to the other side of the
>> mechanical structure to check if there is air trapped between hybrid and MS
>> -> Yi: trying it this week. Consider doing this in production
>>
>> 4. Update the T-board design
>> -> Jianing will update the design this week
>> 1) Move the capacitor to the other side
>> 2) Add two ground holes
>> 3) Tolerance for mounting T-board on the MS, taking into account the
>> constraint from connecting the outer hybrid
>> 4) Check mounting T-board on the MS -> Yi will do it at NCKU
>>
>> 5. Split HV for inner and outer
>> -> Decided to split HV. Mike/Gerard will look into the changes to PPB and
>> back-of-crate boards
>>
>> 6. Integration
>> -> Rahul: will do a tolerance analysis, taking into account the
>> clearance/project requirements but also what can be achieved by the machine
>> shop. Need to have a plan for survey and discuss with Survey group
>>
>> 7. Simulation
>> -> Gavin/Shenghui: slow simulator based on cosmic data is ready. Trying to
>> run the tracking code on RCF.
>>
>> 8. Mechanical structure
>> -> Yi: Han-Sheng leaving the project next week for PhD in US. Test the new
>> procedure with old hybrids. Will verify with the vendor about changes to the
>> precision pin: lead and pin lengths
>>
>> ***** Action items *****
>> 1) Design and fabricate light-tight box for the DAQ integration test at BNL
>> - Rahul/Flemming
>> 2) Design the cooling lines, and cable trays between disks and cooling
>> manifold - Felix/Rahul
>> 3) Finalize how to mount modules onto the half-rings, and half-rings onto
>> support structure, and document the proposed changes to the mechanical
>> structure - Rahul/Yi/Zhenyu
>> 4) Survey procedure/requirements - Rahul
>>
>> 5) Prepare documents for prelim Safety review with C-AD - all
>> 6) Get updated quote from Hamamatsu - Zhenyu
>> 7) Design and fabricate module storage boxes for production at UIC -
>> Xu/Andres
>> 8) Duplicate the module assembly tooling at UIC - Xu/Zhenyu
>> 9) Discuss with Fermilab about module assembly schedule - Zhenyu
>>
>> 10) Update the T-board design to avoid the conflict with Mechanical
>> structure - Jianing/Maowu
>> 11) Check how T-board mount onto MS - Yi
>>
>> 12) Look into splitting the inner and outer sensor HV bias - Mike/Gerard
>> 13) Send the problematic prototype cable-T-board assembly to Mike for
>> investigation - Zhenyu/Mike
>> 14) Develop the QC procedure for Inner cable and T-board assembly -
>> Mike/Maowu
>>
>> 15) Look into the overall large CMN noise, and the abnormal noise of few
>> channels first appear in the readout - Gerard/Xu
>> 16) Check the FST noise performance at high readout rate - Xu/Zhenyu
>> 17) Sett up the laser test stand to characterize prototype module
>> performance - Andres/Zhenyu
>> 18) FST slow simulator with efficiency/resolution measured with prototypes
>> and study tracking performance - Gavin/Shenghui
>>
>> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Ye, Zhenyu <yezhenyu AT uic.edu
>> <mailto:yezhenyu AT uic.edu>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > We will have the Weekly FST meeting on Monday starting at 9am EST (BNL
>> local time).
>> >
>> > Bluejeans Meeting URL https://bluejeans.com/101020434
>> > Meeting ID: 101 020 434
>> >
>> >
>>
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/event/2020/08/10/star-forward-silicon-tracker-meeting
>>
>> >
>> > 0. follow-ups on review and action items
>> > 1. Integration by Rahul Sharma, Felix Archampong
>> > 2. Hybrid and T-board by
>> Maowu Nie, Jianing Dong
>> > 3. Simulation Studies by Gavin Wilks, Shenghui Zhang, Daniel
>> Brandenburg
>> > 4. Prototype Module Assembly and Test by Zhenyu Ye
>> > 5. Mechanical structure by Yi Yang
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[Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
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Ye, Zhenyu, 08/10/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Yi Yang, 08/10/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Yi Yang, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/12/2020
- Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time), Yi Yang, 08/12/2020
- Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time), videbaek, 08/12/2020
- Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time), Gerard Visser, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Yi Yang, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Yi Yang, 08/10/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Ye, Zhenyu, 08/10/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
videbaek, 08/11/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Capotosto, Michael, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/12/2020
- Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time), Zhenyu Ye, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Gerard Visser, 08/12/2020
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Re: [Star-fst-l] Weekly FST meeting, August 10 9am (BNL time),
Capotosto, Michael, 08/12/2020
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