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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks
- From: Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu>
- To: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
- Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks
- Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:36:14 -0400
I made those updates.
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 1:50 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I looked over the new "cost&schedule" slides, which look good. I
> give
> some comments below.
>
> John
>
> p. 29 - my look at the contingency tracking spreadsheet suggests the
> World Events part is only $156k, not $266k; please check. Actually I
> see now on p. 30 what the problem is, which is that EAC in 1057b ($78k)
> is NOT part of World Events but instead is categorized as "Risk"
>
> p. 31 - when showing these slides, remind the reviewers that in this
> period the LHC schedule was delayed by 2 yrs and LS3 was lengthened by
> 0.5 yrs
>
> p. 32 - the treatment of the discrepancy is OK. However, the "guided
> drilldown" should include screenshots of the various documents (quotes,
> BOE, P6 drilldown cost book) showing the exact numbers on your slide 32
> (even if the numbers among the documents don't exactly all agree). So
> you should add a few slides with these screenshots
>
>
>
> On 4/3/23 4:43 PM, Andy Haas wrote:
> > I just finished a draft... (also uploaded to the agenda):
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1MCdLnGynBkoLT498P19bdY7UjZnBHQyhEXkebIMqnug_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIDaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=HsErYW889nat8i6h7O_er5V1Vsx7icw4uqQ4Gk28eiBT-V2XR2GGCjI7xcvHDXzZ&s=GlRL5gBn9BjIB8uxbyeLpzkDheuJcyYH1A0EN-BYUpI&e=
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 2:37 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Tim/Andy, how are you coming with the "cost and schedule" slides? It
> >> would be good to have a draft soon so that we can check for consistency,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On 4/1/23 6:49 PM, Ma, Hong wrote:
> >>> Hi John,
> >>>
> >>> Some comments on your L3 slides.
> >>>
> >>> Slide 2: docdb for traceability table should be the same as BOE (24).
> >>> But somehow your docdb for BOE does not have the traceability sheet.
> >>> Are you updating it?
> >>>
> >>> Slide 3: The left table for cost has truncated numbers, such as
> >>> 709,75, it should be 709,759 .
> >>>
> >>> Slide 5: “Total Direct Cost”: This should be Total Cost. Direct Cost
> >>> usually means cost before escalation, and overhead.
> >>>
> >>> Hong.
> >>>
> >>> From: Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l
> >>> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of John
> >>> Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> >>> Date: Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 3:59 PM
> >>> To: usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> >>> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks
> >>>
> >>> I completed most of the rest of the new Cost&Schedule slides for the
> >>> FEB2, leaving just the "guided drilldown" to do still. I updated my
> >>> slides at
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_18946_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=aMD2R-p5dz8WLlRAEB6IaqgBH_M27wi_yPm4PRXoDuuPfK1rzAT-E8my6iIFZ2En&s=kyEj54lOKuwirimqNXMQxkahVVoysn8lyvo4PBMDvKs&e=
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On 4/1/23 3:10 PM, John Parsons wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> As we discussed, I have gone through the various BCPs and
> >>>> produced
> >>>> a table summarizing the delays for each L3. I have put this new table
> >>>> in
> >>>> the draft of my FEB2 "Cost&Schedule" slides, and uploaded them to
> >>>> yesterday's Indico
> >>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_18946_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=aMD2R-p5dz8WLlRAEB6IaqgBH_M27wi_yPm4PRXoDuuPfK1rzAT-E8my6iIFZ2En&s=kyEj54lOKuwirimqNXMQxkahVVoysn8lyvo4PBMDvKs&e=
> >>>> ). The table is
> >>>> all I have done so far on those new slides so far, and it is on p. 7 of
> >>>> those slides; Tim and Andy should put a similar slide with a copy of
> >>>> the
> >>>> same table in their L3 Cost&Schedule slides.
> >>>> As additional info, here are the milestones I used to quantify
> >>>> the
> >>>> delays at L3, and their respective dates currently and at the start of
> >>>> the MREFC:
> >>>>
> >>>> 6.4.1
> >>>> FEE20940 (Milestone: ADC Production Complete)
> >>>> Current date: 24-Jun-25
> >>>> MREFC start date: 9-Jan-24
> >>>>
> >>>> 6.4.3
> >>>> BEE11060 (Milestone: BE Acceptance Test Complete)
> >>>> Current date: 30-Sep-26
> >>>> MREFC start date: 3-Jan-25
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> John
> >>>
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
John Parsons, 04/03/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Andy Haas, 04/03/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, Tim Andeen, 04/03/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
John Parsons, 04/04/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Tim Andeen, 04/04/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, Ma, Hong, 04/04/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, John Parsons, 04/05/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, Ma, Hong, 04/05/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, Timothy R Andeen, 04/05/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, Andy Haas, 04/05/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Tim Andeen, 04/04/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Andy Haas, 04/04/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, John Parsons, 04/05/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Andy Haas, 04/03/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
John Parsons, 04/03/2023
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks,
Andy Haas, 04/03/2023
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks, John Parsons, 04/03/2023
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