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  • From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
  • To: Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu>
  • Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks
  • Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 09:51:20 -0400


Andy, couple residual comments:

p. 30 - the 2 DOE BCP impacts are NOT considered COVID so move them to the other column (and make the corresponding changes on p. 290

p. 33 - I suggest to expand to 2-3 slides, label all the numbers you mention on p. 32 (eg. $9,684.71), label where each scrreenshot is taken from (eg. BOE), ... Also, you have only BOE I think, what about P6 table, and what about your tracebility table; they should all be included.

On 4/4/23 9:36 PM, Andy Haas wrote:
I made those updates.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 1:50 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
wrote:


Hi Andy,

I looked over the new "cost&schedule" slides, which look good. I
give
some comments below.

John

p. 29 - my look at the contingency tracking spreadsheet suggests the
World Events part is only $156k, not $266k; please check. Actually I
see now on p. 30 what the problem is, which is that EAC in 1057b ($78k)
is NOT part of World Events but instead is categorized as "Risk"

p. 31 - when showing these slides, remind the reviewers that in this
period the LHC schedule was delayed by 2 yrs and LS3 was lengthened by
0.5 yrs

p. 32 - the treatment of the discrepancy is OK. However, the "guided
drilldown" should include screenshots of the various documents (quotes,
BOE, P6 drilldown cost book) showing the exact numbers on your slide 32
(even if the numbers among the documents don't exactly all agree). So
you should add a few slides with these screenshots



On 4/3/23 4:43 PM, Andy Haas wrote:
I just finished a draft... (also uploaded to the agenda):
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1MCdLnGynBkoLT498P19bdY7UjZnBHQyhEXkebIMqnug_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIDaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=HsErYW889nat8i6h7O_er5V1Vsx7icw4uqQ4Gk28eiBT-V2XR2GGCjI7xcvHDXzZ&s=GlRL5gBn9BjIB8uxbyeLpzkDheuJcyYH1A0EN-BYUpI&e=

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 2:37 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
wrote:


Tim/Andy, how are you coming with the "cost and schedule" slides? It
would be good to have a draft soon so that we can check for consistency,
etc.

John

On 4/1/23 6:49 PM, Ma, Hong wrote:
Hi John,

Some comments on your L3 slides.

Slide 2: docdb for traceability table should be the same as BOE (24). But
somehow your docdb for BOE does not have the traceability sheet. Are you
updating it?

Slide 3: The left table for cost has truncated numbers, such as 709,75, it
should be 709,759 .

Slide 5: “Total Direct Cost”: This should be Total Cost. Direct Cost
usually means cost before escalation, and overhead.

Hong.

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Date: Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] delay table for L3 talks

I completed most of the rest of the new Cost&Schedule slides for the
FEB2, leaving just the "guided drilldown" to do still. I updated my
slides at
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_18946_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=aMD2R-p5dz8WLlRAEB6IaqgBH_M27wi_yPm4PRXoDuuPfK1rzAT-E8my6iIFZ2En&s=kyEj54lOKuwirimqNXMQxkahVVoysn8lyvo4PBMDvKs&e=
.

John

On 4/1/23 3:10 PM, John Parsons wrote:

Hi all,

As we discussed, I have gone through the various BCPs and produced
a table summarizing the delays for each L3. I have put this new table in
the draft of my FEB2 "Cost&Schedule" slides, and uploaded them to
yesterday's Indico
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_18946_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=aMD2R-p5dz8WLlRAEB6IaqgBH_M27wi_yPm4PRXoDuuPfK1rzAT-E8my6iIFZ2En&s=kyEj54lOKuwirimqNXMQxkahVVoysn8lyvo4PBMDvKs&e=
). The table is
all I have done so far on those new slides so far, and it is on p. 7 of
those slides; Tim and Andy should put a similar slide with a copy of the
same table in their L3 Cost&Schedule slides.
As additional info, here are the milestones I used to quantify the
delays at L3, and their respective dates currently and at the start of
the MREFC:

6.4.1
FEE20940 (Milestone: ADC Production Complete)
Current date: 24-Jun-25
MREFC start date: 9-Jan-24

6.4.3
BEE11060 (Milestone: BE Acceptance Test Complete)
Current date: 30-Sep-26
MREFC start date: 3-Jan-25

Regards,
John

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