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[John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the 
"answer" will only generate more questions.

On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
> Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put 
> “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”.  We have no 
> contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
>
> > On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which 
> > includes up to BCP 1027.
> >
> >                 John
> >
> > On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
> > > For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" numbers, 
> > > not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be some consistency issues - at 
> > > least for muons.  Our baseline starts at BCP 1028.
> > > Tom
> > > ===================
> > > Tom Schwarz
> > > Associate Professor
> > > Department of Physics
> > > University of Michigan
> > > Office: 734-764-8941
> > > Lab: 734-763-7805
> > > schwarzt AT umich.edu <mailto:schwarzt AT umich.edu>
> > > ===================
> > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu 
> > > <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
> > >     Hi,
> > >     I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
> > >     
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!EV5VNaFAp8G2MfGbOGubII51URHRXyTA5pFiKJVwHj2LdTqjQLPYl4PxvorPnq13Vk7ex_QEeUoJOg2Q5mvQmTHOUVCWI6JzyZRElOxepgOv3a-pVWd9_Q$
> > >   
> > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
> > >     I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
> > >     after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
> > >     between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has slides
> > >     on this from the FDR.
> > >     Best,
> > >     Gustaaf
> > > >     On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
> > > >     <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Gustaaf,____
> > > >
> > > >     I can put together something on subaward management.____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
> > > >     official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
> > > >     breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
> > > >     do that if it helps.____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
> > > >     last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
> > > >     make the subaward management slide.____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
> > > >     posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
> > > >     looked there and found something?____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Cheers, Mike____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
> > > >     <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
> > > >     *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
> > > >     *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
> > > >     Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
> > > >     *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > > >     <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > > >     usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> > > >     <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > > >     *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
> > > >     Director’s Review Homework Questions____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Mike,____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
> > > >     means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
> > > >     distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that?     But 
> > > > I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
> > > >     slides?____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Best,____
> > > >
> > > >     __ __
> > > >
> > > >     Gustaaf____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     ____
> > > >
> > > >         On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
> > > >         <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____
> > > >
> > > >         __ __
> > > >
> > > >         Hi All,____
> > > >
> > > >         Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
> > > >         PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
> > > >         part of the last one on system engineering practices and
> > > >         interface management – please put together some response for
> > > >         that.____
> > > >
> > > >         ____
> > > >
> > > >         Thanks, PO____
> > > >
> > > >         ____
> > > >
> > > >         *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
> > > >         <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
> > > >         *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
> > > >         *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
> > > >         <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
> > > >         *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
> > > >         <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
> > > >         <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
> > > >         (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
> > > >         <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
> > > >         <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
> > > >         <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
> > > >         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
> > > >         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
> > > >         <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
> > > >         <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
> > > >         <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
> > > >         *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____
> > > >
> > > >         ____
> > > >
> > > >         Hi Mike-____
> > > >
> > > >         We have just a handful of questions:____
> > > >
> > > >           * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
> > > >             milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
> > > >             schedules.____
> > > >           * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
> > > >             Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for cost____
> > > >           * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
> > > >             base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
> > > >             Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
> > > >           * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
> > > >           * the project adhering to best practices in systems
> > > >             engineering, interface management, and subaward
> > > >             management?:____
> > > >
> > > >         This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____
> > > >
> > > >         The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
> > > >         meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
> > > >         technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
> > > >         we can adjust.____
> > > >
> > > >         If you have questions, please email me or call at
> > > >         331-803-0446.____
> > > >
> > > >         Cheers,____
> > > >
> > > >         Tom____
> > > >
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