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[Stephanie Majewski <smajewsk AT uoregon.edu>]

Hi Gustaaf,

Just to confirm, the milestone sheet also looks good for Trigger.

Stephanie

On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:11 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:

Penka extracted Tier 4 and higher milestones to a spreadsheet.  I think we can just post this, but take a look nevertheless.

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:03 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>
> BTW, wrt Q1, I had a few LAr examples on slide 19 of my L2 talk:
>
> ADC FDR 4/21 -->10/22, FEB2 PDR 10/20 -->12/22, SRTM PDR 10/20 -->01/23
>
> On 3/1/23 8:59 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>> I would still suggest an asterisk that says something like "Very close but not identical to cost at MREFC start on 4/1/2020."
>> On 3/1/23 8:55 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>>>
>>> It’s in the table!
>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the "answer" will only generate more questions.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>>>>> Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”.  We have no contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which includes up to BCP 1027.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
>>>>>>> For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" numbers, not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be some consistency issues - at least for muons.  Our baseline starts at BCP 1028.
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>> Tom Schwarz
>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>> Department of Physics
>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>> Office: 734-764-8941
>>>>>>> Lab: 734-763-7805
>>>>>>> schwarzt AT umich.edu <mailto:schwarzt AT umich.edu>
>>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>>     I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
>>>>>>>    https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HcxWtBiLR_F2zarA9vkhI4kh3I8cvAubC0ljF9elb5ScOQ6_53IcGjFtRpPW4xP29blI9OditTw8rBd3kyWDcTLOxCr7IwW-ulDsAS3Uqcs62gvXPIfkyg$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
>>>>>>>     I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
>>>>>>>     after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
>>>>>>>     between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has slides
>>>>>>>     on this from the FDR.
>>>>>>>     Best,
>>>>>>>     Gustaaf
>>>>>>>>     On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi Gustaaf,____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I can put together something on subaward management.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
>>>>>>>>     official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
>>>>>>>>     breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
>>>>>>>>     do that if it helps.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
>>>>>>>>     last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
>>>>>>>>     make the subaward management slide.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
>>>>>>>>     posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
>>>>>>>>     looked there and found something?____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Cheers, Mike____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
>>>>>>>>     *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
>>>>>>>>     Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
>>>>>>>>     *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
>>>>>>>>     usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
>>>>>>>>     Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi Mike,____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
>>>>>>>>     means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
>>>>>>>>     distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that?     But I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
>>>>>>>>     slides?____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Best,____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Gustaaf____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         __ __
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hi All,____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
>>>>>>>>         PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
>>>>>>>>         part of the last one on system engineering practices and
>>>>>>>>         interface management – please put together some response for
>>>>>>>>         that.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks, PO____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
>>>>>>>>         *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
>>>>>>>>         *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>>         *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
>>>>>>>>         <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
>>>>>>>>         (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
>>>>>>>>         <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
>>>>>>>>         *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hi Mike-____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         We have just a handful of questions:____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
>>>>>>>>             milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
>>>>>>>>             schedules.____
>>>>>>>>           * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
>>>>>>>>             Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for cost____
>>>>>>>>           * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
>>>>>>>>             base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
>>>>>>>>             Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
>>>>>>>>           * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
>>>>>>>>           * the project adhering to best practices in systems
>>>>>>>>             engineering, interface management, and subaward
>>>>>>>>             management?:____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
>>>>>>>>         meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
>>>>>>>>         technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
>>>>>>>>         we can adjust.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         If you have questions, please email me or call at
>>>>>>>>         331-803-0446.____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Cheers,____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Tom____
>>>>>>>>
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