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[Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

It’s in the table!

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the 
> "answer" will only generate more questions.
> 
> On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>> Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put 
>> “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”.  We have no 
>> contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which 
>>> includes up to BCP 1027.
>>> 
>>>             John
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
>>>> For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" 
>>>> numbers, not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be some 
>>>> consistency issues - at least for muons.  Our baseline starts at BCP 
>>>> 1028.
>>>> Tom
>>>> ===================
>>>> Tom Schwarz
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Department of Physics
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>> Office: 734-764-8941
>>>> Lab: 734-763-7805
>>>> schwarzt AT umich.edu <mailto:schwarzt AT umich.edu>
>>>> ===================
>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans 
>>>> <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>>    Hi,
>>>>    I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
>>>>    
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HZhVkW7u-fIYtNPCV59Eearp37zXPdAsE5c7e6Lf9W-JyPPZCgS4o5goQDxzQW6DFxRVt2tj9ARtqlNVabfCzXVI8b2889Jo-qtpXVdt_vlRcc_0OV1TVw$
>>>>   
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
>>>>    I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
>>>>    after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
>>>>    between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has slides
>>>>    on this from the FDR.
>>>>    Best,
>>>>    Gustaaf
>>>>>    On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>    <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Hi Gustaaf,____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    I can put together something on subaward management.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
>>>>>    official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
>>>>>    breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
>>>>>    do that if it helps.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
>>>>>    last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
>>>>>    make the subaward management slide.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
>>>>>    posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
>>>>>    looked there and found something?____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Cheers, Mike____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>    <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
>>>>>    *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
>>>>>    Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
>>>>>    *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>    <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
>>>>>    usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>    <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
>>>>>    Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Hi Mike,____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
>>>>>    means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
>>>>>    distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that?     
>>>>> But I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
>>>>>    slides?____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Best,____
>>>>> 
>>>>>    __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Gustaaf____
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    ____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>        <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        __ __
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Hi All,____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
>>>>>        PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
>>>>>        part of the last one on system engineering practices and
>>>>>        interface management – please put together some response for
>>>>>        that.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        ____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Thanks, PO____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        ____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
>>>>>        <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
>>>>>        *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
>>>>>        *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>        <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>        *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
>>>>>        <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
>>>>>        <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
>>>>>        (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
>>>>>        <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
>>>>>        <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
>>>>>        <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
>>>>>        <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
>>>>>        <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
>>>>>        <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
>>>>>        *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        ____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Hi Mike-____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        We have just a handful of questions:____
>>>>> 
>>>>>          * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
>>>>>            milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
>>>>>            schedules.____
>>>>>          * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
>>>>>            Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for cost____
>>>>>          * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
>>>>>            base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
>>>>>            Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
>>>>>          * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
>>>>>          * the project adhering to best practices in systems
>>>>>            engineering, interface management, and subaward
>>>>>            management?:____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
>>>>>        meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
>>>>>        technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
>>>>>        we can adjust.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        If you have questions, please email me or call at
>>>>>        331-803-0446.____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Cheers,____
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Tom____
>>>>> 
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