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  • From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
  • To: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
  • Cc: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>, "us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions
  • Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 21:03:44 -0500


BTW, wrt Q1, I had a few LAr examples on slide 19 of my L2 talk:

ADC FDR 4/21 -->10/22, FEB2 PDR 10/20 -->12/22, SRTM PDR 10/20 -->01/23

On 3/1/23 8:59 PM, John Parsons wrote:

I would still suggest an asterisk that says something like "Very close but not identical to cost at MREFC start on 4/1/2020."

On 3/1/23 8:55 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:

It’s in the table!

On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:


OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the "answer" will only generate more questions.

On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”. We have no contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:


Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which includes up to BCP 1027.

        John

On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" numbers, not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be some consistency issues - at least for muons.  Our baseline starts at BCP 1028.
Tom
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
    Hi,
    I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HcxWtBiLR_F2zarA9vkhI4kh3I8cvAubC0ljF9elb5ScOQ6_53IcGjFtRpPW4xP29blI9OditTw8rBd3kyWDcTLOxCr7IwW-ulDsAS3Uqcs62gvXPIfkyg$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
    I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
    after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
    between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has slides
    on this from the FDR.
    Best,
    Gustaaf
    On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
    <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:

    Hi Gustaaf,____

    I can put together something on subaward management.____

    __ __

    Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
    official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
    breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
    do that if it helps.____

    __ __

    Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
    last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
    make the subaward management slide.____

    __ __

    Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
    posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
    looked there and found something?____

    __ __

    Cheers, Mike____

    __ __

    *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
    <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
    *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
    Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
    *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
    <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
    usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
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    *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
    Director’s Review Homework Questions____

    __ __

    __ __

    Hi Mike,____

    __ __

    I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
    means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
    distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that?     But I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
    slides?____

    __ __

    Best,____

    __ __

    Gustaaf____



    ____

        On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
        <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____

        __ __

        Hi All,____

        Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
        PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
        part of the last one on system engineering practices and
        interface management – please put together some response for
        that.____

        ____

        Thanks, PO____

        ____

        *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
        <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
        *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
        *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
        <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
        *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
        <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
        <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
        (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
        <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
        <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
        <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
        <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
        <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
        <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
        *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____

        ____

        Hi Mike-____

        We have just a handful of questions:____

          * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
            milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
            schedules.____
          * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
            Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for cost____
          * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
            base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
            Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
          * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
          * the project adhering to best practices in systems
            engineering, interface management, and subaward
            management?:____

        This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____

        The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
        meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
        technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
        we can adjust.____

        If you have questions, please email me or call at
        331-803-0446.____

        Cheers,____

        Tom____

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