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[Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

Sure, that’s easy enough.

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:59 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> I would still suggest an asterisk that says something like "Very close but 
> not identical to cost at MREFC start on 4/1/2020."
> 
> On 3/1/23 8:55 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>> It’s in the table!
>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the 
>>> "answer" will only generate more questions.
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>>>> Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put 
>>>> “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”.  We have 
>>>> no contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which 
>>>>> includes up to BCP 1027.
>>>>> 
>>>>>           John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
>>>>>> For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" 
>>>>>> numbers, not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be some 
>>>>>> consistency issues - at least for muons.  Our baseline starts at BCP 
>>>>>> 1028.
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>> Tom Schwarz
>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>> Department of Physics
>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>> Office: 734-764-8941
>>>>>> Lab: 734-763-7805
>>>>>> schwarzt AT umich.edu <mailto:schwarzt AT umich.edu>
>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans 
>>>>>> <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>>    I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
>>>>>>    
>>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!AWuJuPEL1-in8VMJzA2DlEFkVS31YK5-cQOZkPbEFVtfFwPozbP_hod5TNCTDE4VKZOr9OuZvXeUgbgepy9JVlzrmzEW4PCu5egQg6JxZTTuJR37HMlU1w$
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
>>>>>>    I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
>>>>>>    after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
>>>>>>    between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has slides
>>>>>>    on this from the FDR.
>>>>>>    Best,
>>>>>>    Gustaaf
>>>>>>>    On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>    <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Hi Gustaaf,____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    I can put together something on subaward management.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
>>>>>>>    official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
>>>>>>>    breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
>>>>>>>    do that if it helps.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
>>>>>>>    last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
>>>>>>>    make the subaward management slide.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
>>>>>>>    posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
>>>>>>>    looked there and found something?____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Cheers, Mike____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>    <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
>>>>>>>    *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
>>>>>>>    Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
>>>>>>>    *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>    <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
>>>>>>>    usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>    <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
>>>>>>>    Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Hi Mike,____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
>>>>>>>    means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
>>>>>>>    distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that?   
>>>>>>>   But I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
>>>>>>>    slides?____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Best,____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    Gustaaf____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    ____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>        <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        __ __
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Hi All,____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
>>>>>>>        PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
>>>>>>>        part of the last one on system engineering practices and
>>>>>>>        interface management – please put together some response for
>>>>>>>        that.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        ____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Thanks, PO____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        ____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
>>>>>>>        <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
>>>>>>>        *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
>>>>>>>        *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>        <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>        *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
>>>>>>>        <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
>>>>>>>        <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
>>>>>>>        (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
>>>>>>>        <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
>>>>>>>        <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
>>>>>>>        <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>        <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
>>>>>>>        <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
>>>>>>>        <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
>>>>>>>        <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
>>>>>>>        *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        ____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Hi Mike-____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        We have just a handful of questions:____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>          * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
>>>>>>>            milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
>>>>>>>            schedules.____
>>>>>>>          * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
>>>>>>>            Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for 
>>>>>>> cost____
>>>>>>>          * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
>>>>>>>            base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
>>>>>>>            Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
>>>>>>>          * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
>>>>>>>          * the project adhering to best practices in systems
>>>>>>>            engineering, interface management, and subaward
>>>>>>>            management?:____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
>>>>>>>        meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
>>>>>>>        technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
>>>>>>>        we can adjust.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        If you have questions, please email me or call at
>>>>>>>        331-803-0446.____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Cheers,____
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        Tom____
>>>>>>> 
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