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[Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

Penka extracted Tier 4 and higher milestones to a spreadsheet.  I think we 
can just post this, but take a look nevertheless.

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> On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:03 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> BTW, wrt Q1, I had a few LAr examples on slide 19 of my L2 talk:
> 
> ADC FDR 4/21 -->10/22, FEB2 PDR 10/20 -->12/22, SRTM PDR 10/20 -->01/23
> 
> On 3/1/23 8:59 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>> I would still suggest an asterisk that says something like "Very close but 
>> not identical to cost at MREFC start on 4/1/2020."
>> On 3/1/23 8:55 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s in the table!
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the 
>>>> "answer" will only generate more questions.
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:
>>>>> Of course.  These are not the baseline numbers.  The request is to put 
>>>>> “original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”.  We have 
>>>>> no contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same for LAr.  I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which 
>>>>>> includes up to BCP 1027.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>         John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:
>>>>>>> For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" 
>>>>>>> numbers, not the baseline.  Is that what you want?  There will be 
>>>>>>> some consistency issues - at least for muons.  Our baseline starts at 
>>>>>>> BCP 1028.
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>> Tom Schwarz
>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>> Department of Physics
>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>> Office: 734-764-8941
>>>>>>> Lab: 734-763-7805
>>>>>>> schwarzt AT umich.edu <mailto:schwarzt AT umich.edu>
>>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans 
>>>>>>> <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>>     I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HcxWtBiLR_F2zarA9vkhI4kh3I8cvAubC0ljF9elb5ScOQ6_53IcGjFtRpPW4xP29blI9OditTw8rBd3kyWDcTLOxCr7IwW-ulDsAS3Uqcs62gvXPIfkyg$
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
>>>>>>>     I have answered question 3.  I think Penka was going to work on #1
>>>>>>>     after Alexei asked his question.  #2 is for Chris and I think
>>>>>>>     between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4.  Hal has 
>>>>>>> slides
>>>>>>>     on this from the FDR.
>>>>>>>     Best,
>>>>>>>     Gustaaf
>>>>>>>>     On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Hi Gustaaf,____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     I can put together something on subaward management.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>     official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
>>>>>>>>     breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could 
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>     do that if it helps.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
>>>>>>>>     last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
>>>>>>>>     make the subaward management slide.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
>>>>>>>>     posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>     looked there and found something?____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Cheers, Mike____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     *From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
>>>>>>>>     *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
>>>>>>>>     Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
>>>>>>>>     *Cc:* us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
>>>>>>>>     usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>>>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
>>>>>>>>     Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Hi Mike,____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     I can produce the table for item #3 easily.  I’m not sure what #2
>>>>>>>>     means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
>>>>>>>>     distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that? 
>>>>>>>>     But I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
>>>>>>>>     slides?____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Best,____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Gustaaf____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     ____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         __ __
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Hi All,____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>         PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
>>>>>>>>         part of the last one on system engineering practices and
>>>>>>>>         interface management – please put together some response for
>>>>>>>>         that.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Thanks, PO____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         *From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
>>>>>>>>         *Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
>>>>>>>>         *To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
>>>>>>>>         *Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
>>>>>>>>         <rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
>>>>>>>>         (marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
>>>>>>>>         <marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
>>>>>>>>         *Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         ____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Hi Mike-____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         We have just a handful of questions:____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>           * We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
>>>>>>>>             milestone-based  comparison ofthe  original and revised
>>>>>>>>             schedules.____
>>>>>>>>           * We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
>>>>>>>>             Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for 
>>>>>>>> cost____
>>>>>>>>           * We would like to see a table with four columns - original
>>>>>>>>             base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
>>>>>>>>             Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
>>>>>>>>           * Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, 
>>>>>>>> "Is____
>>>>>>>>           * the project adhering to best practices in systems
>>>>>>>>             engineering, interface management, and subaward
>>>>>>>>             management?:____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
>>>>>>>>         meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
>>>>>>>>         technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>         we can adjust.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         If you have questions, please email me or call at
>>>>>>>>         331-803-0446.____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Cheers,____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         Tom____
>>>>>>>> 
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