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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions

From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
To: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
Cc: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>, "us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:59:38 -0500

I would still suggest an asterisk that says something like "Very close but not identical to cost at MREFC start on 4/1/2020."

On 3/1/23 8:55 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:

It’s in the table!

On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:52 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:

OK, that is fine, but it should be made very clear since otherwise the
"answer" will only generate more questions.

On 3/1/23 8:49 PM, Gustaaf Brooijmans wrote:

Of course. These are not the baseline numbers. The request is to put
“original” base and contingency calculation next to “current”. We have no
contingency simulation for the baseline numbers.

On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:46 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:

Same for LAr. I showed in my L2 talk a baseline cost of 19.22M, which
includes up to BCP 1027.

John

On 3/1/23 8:00 PM, Thomas Schwarz wrote:

For the table in q3, the numbers you have as original are the "FDR" numbers,
not the baseline. Is that what you want? There will be some consistency issues - at
least for muons. Our baseline starts at BCP 1028.
Tom
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
<mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:
Hi,
I set up a google sheets doc so everybody can edit:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HcxWtBiLR_F2zarA9vkhI4kh3I8cvAubC0ljF9elb5ScOQ6_53IcGjFtRpPW4xP29blI9OditTw8rBd3kyWDcTLOxCr7IwW-ulDsAS3Uqcs62gvXPIfkyg$

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pc9McRumCppvOabd6qAar9a6aF741cOPTeVNOuYmd6M/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!BC6GdmUO_ZA84FfAZ2T2DDE33hHpPT5YDqKUjWMGEgUDEVsFkqVS-xTHgGnKeBk5Obxe0Plc9kAB5Cad9xgmdhTZM4UCLP-YzcTKhQJrpijN-YM5RDy5_g$>
I have answered question 3. I think Penka was going to work on #1
after Alexei asked his question. #2 is for Chris and I think
between you and Hal you should be able to answer #4. Hal has slides
on this from the FDR.
Best,
Gustaaf

On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
<mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:

Hi Gustaaf,____

I can put together something on subaward management.____

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Do you have the original breakdown for 3? I have that based on the
official breakdown as in our original award (I also put the
breakdown for 1057 that I used in one of my slides), so could also
do that if it helps.____

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Maybe Hal could take what we get from the L2s and flesh out the
last point on system engineering and interface management? I will
make the subaward management slide.____

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Can ask about the schedule distributions – one thought is that we
posted Chris’ talk in the management breakout section … maybe they
looked there and found something?____

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Cheers, Mike____

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*From:* Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu
<mailto:gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:33 PM
*To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>>;
Meyer, Chris <cjmey AT iu.edu <mailto:cjmey AT iu.edu>>
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*Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] March 1-2
Director’s Review Homework Questions____

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Hi Mike,____

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I can produce the table for item #3 easily. I’m not sure what #2
means - I don’t think we showed them graphs for MC schedule
distributions, so maybe you can ask them what they mean by that? But
I guess Chris can put a few of the PRA output graphs on a few
slides?____

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Best,____

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Gustaaf____

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On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net
<mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>> wrote:____

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Hi All,____

Attached are the homework questions. Most are addressed to the
PO it looks like. The one area where L2s can contribute is
part of the last one on system engineering practices and
interface management – please put together some response for
that.____

____

Thanks, PO____

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*From:*LeCompte, Tom <lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu
<mailto:lecompte AT slac.stanford.edu>>
*Sent:*Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:19 PM
*To:*Michael Tuts <tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu
<mailto:tuts AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
*Cc:*Victor Krabbendam <VKrabbendam AT lsst.org
<mailto:VKrabbendam AT lsst.org>>; Gutta, Rajendra Rao
<rgutta AT bnl.gov <mailto:rgutta AT bnl.gov>>; Marco Verzocchi
(marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com <mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>)
<marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com
<mailto:marco.verzocchi AT gmail.com>>; Sarah Eno <eno AT umd.edu
<mailto:eno AT umd.edu>>; Ted Liu (thliu AT fnal.gov
<mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>) <thliu AT fnal.gov
<mailto:thliu AT fnal.gov>>; Darin Acosta <dea6 AT rice.edu
<mailto:dea6 AT rice.edu>>; Alexei N. Safonov <safonov AT tamu.edu
<mailto:safonov AT tamu.edu>>; Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov
<mailto:denisovd AT bnl.gov>>
*Subject:*March 1-2 Director’s Review Homework Questions____

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Hi Mike-____

We have just a handful of questions:____

* We would like to see a high-level (say Levels 1 and 2)
milestone-based comparison ofthe original and revised
schedules.____
* We saw graphs of the schedule distributions from Monte
Carlo runs; we would like to see similar graphs for cost____
* We would like to see a table with four columns - original
base and contingency and revised base and contingency.
Rows should be at the the L2 level of detail.____
* Please prepare a few slides to address Question K, "Is____
* the project adhering to best practices in systems
engineering, interface management, and subaward
management?:____

This should not sum up to more than a few slides.____

The expectation is that Management, Cost & Schedule will not
meet tomorrow, and instead people will join the various
technical subcommittees. If this is a problem, let me know and
we can adjust.____

If you have questions, please email me or call at
331-803-0446.____

Cheers,____

Tom____

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